If Obama gives into the Catholic Bishops, where will this end?

Obama is demanding that Catholic Organizations that give insurance to their employees go against their conscience. This is a violation of religious freedom. There are already relgious exemptions for many things that would violate religous freedom. The Amish have an exemption for Social security, Quakers have an exemption against anything that would support war (for example, when there was a draft, they were exempt).....Jehovah's Witnesses are not required to salute the flag in school. The Bishops are not demanding that no catholics have birth control as part of their insurance, they are demanding that Catholics who provide insurance not be forced to offer and pay for these services.. The president's so-called compromise is still semantics and not good enough. This isn't about birth control, it's about religous freedom and violation of conscience.

The rule requiring the bc coverage has already been challenged in some of the 28 states where it was law long before this came up. Federal courts have ruled consistently that the church's actions are unconstitutional and a violation of the religious freedom of their employees. If they insist on dragging this out and take it to court again, it likely won't even make it to the SCOTUS because there is already so much existing case law proving them wrong.

I was reading about the free birth control provision and the administration says that insurance must provide birth control, sterilization and I forget what else for FREE with no copay and can not raise the insurance premiums to cover it. WTH? Do they think there is a birth control/sterilization fairy that provides it?

WTH? Do they think there is a birth control/sterilization fairy that provides it?

They are expecting insurance to pay for it for everyone like it already does for the majority of insured. In other words, they're expecting the insurance companies to renegotiate with the pharmaceutical companies to drop their profit margin. This issue of how much authority the admin has over those transactions and whether they fall under interstate commerce is a whole different issue - one that is being shoved to a back burner by all this whining by a single denomination of a single religion insisting it be allowed to violate the constitutional rights of its employees.

Every day things are tied up with petty distractions like this is one more day companies and private citizens are spending money they can't afford on the HCR until the SCOTUS can make a definitive decision on the whole thing (not one aspect which is guaranteed to be upheld).

BS, Anna, no one is being required to take the pill or use other birth control, those examples are PERSONAL exceptions.

OP, did you know that the Catholic faith does not condone birth control? Why do you make a point of saying you are a Catholic if you are going to tell us in the next breath that you are rejecting the clear teaching of the Church?

Nobody is trying to control anyone else's rights. The Church just says that Catholic organizations cannot fund these things that the Church says are immoral. You can reject Church teaching all you want, but I am not going to pay for it.

OP....Viagra is used for then just sexual dysfunction. It also used for people who have a rare disease called pulmonary arterial hypertension (PAH). Also believe it or not, viagra can be used for altitude sickness. Its for certain situations where the standard treatment of rapid descent has been delayed for some reason. Some insurance companies also doesn't have to pay for bc unless the doctor deems it necessary for the woman's health such as very heavy periods.
But other then that OP, I agree with you, where will it stop? Seems like many people think the "separation of church and state" are in the constitution and they have rights granted to them...

I find it ironic ~ and the perfect definition of hypocrisy ~ that those who howl about the general public footing the bill for a statue (or plaque, or banner, etc.) that might have something religious on it have absolutely no problem claiming that religious people shouldn't howl just as loudly about footing the bill for something they do not believe in.

I think it would be at least mildly entertaining to do a nose count/comparison to see just how many are aligned this way here at CM.

I mentioned it on another question, but it bears repeating ... if you don't want 'people' in your uterus, don't expect 'people' to pay for the upkeep of your uterus.