Breaking CPS Rules

I know someone who CPS took their children from them. I'm sure I don't know all the reasons, but I know a couple of them are due to bad parenting and needing anger management. The parents are going through the classes and such to get the kids back, but currently they are not allowed visits with the children outside of a CPS office.

Mother's grandparents have went through the steps to be able to keep the kids as a respite for their foster parent. This weekend there is something going on where the grandparents are going to have the grandchildren and will be going to a place where the mother is. They have openly said to people (me included) that they don't care what CPS says, they are going to do this because it is what they want to do.

I'm one of those weird people who is a stickler for rules. I feel that there are rules for a reason and if CPS doesn't believe these kids should be around their parents outside of their supervision, then there is obviously a good reason. I'm very tempted to call CPS and give them a head's up, but not sure if that would be a good thing to do because it would assumingly make things more difficult for the mom to get the kids back...

What do you think? Are there good reasons why CPS says only visit with them there or is it a stupid rule that really has no good reason to be there?

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Asked by AllAboutKeeley at 8:11 AM on Feb. 16, 2012 in General Parenting

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Answer by Cafemomoftwo217 at 8:15 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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I don't know

Comment by AllAboutKeeley (original poster) at 8:16 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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I'm a stickler for rules myself. When cps gets involved and take away the kids 90% of the time it is supervised. Why? If the situation was bad enough cps had to remove the children then the parents are not trustworthy to do whats in their best interest. Second, they run the risk of the parents running with the children to avoid dealing with the courts. So lets say grandparents allow mom there, and mom decides screw this Im taking my kids and running to another state. Then what? So see why cps does what they do? To avoid these tempting situations. Even a bad parent think they love their child. I would call.

Answer by gemgem at 8:20 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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Considering that children end up dead b4 any1 wants to step n, I would definatly b concerned if shes only supposed to c them w supervised cps office visits and shes trying to c them wo the supervision. Your n a tough spot but on the other hand u might b doing the children good expecially if there parents r pretty messed up. If it were me I prob would call If I felt the children were either n danger or could emotionaly get hurt bc the parents r not put togeather.

Answer by HmschoolingMom at 8:23 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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This is a tough one because CPS aren't as innocent or good at following their own rules!! I know from experience that they've taken children from innocent parents by over-reacting & left kids in bad situations where there is proof after proof that abuse/ neglect is going on!!! On the one hand I would say, keep out of it if you don't know the full story because you could be making things harder for an innocent parent who just wants to see her kids but on the other hand if you KNOW that the children would be at risk from seeing their mom then yes, call. But at the end of the day be sure of your decision because you are the only one who will have to live with it - Good Luck:)

Answer by Ellie15 at 8:30 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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honestly- I'm surprised CPS has done a damn thing...I'd definitely let them know if they actually got themselves together enough to take the kids out of the home in the first place

*I say I'm surprised because my daughters boyfriend has been dealing with them off and on with his family situation and they have done very little - and even when his mom does things against them...they don't seem to care much

Answer by charlotsomtimes at 8:32 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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Look what happened with the Powell kids. It was supposed to be a supervised visit and the dad got the kids in the house and quickly locked out the CPS agent and killed the kids and blew up the house. I guess after that CPS is being very cautious and using neutral ground to set up supervised visits.

Answer by robinkane at 8:33 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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I think if it were me, and AAK you know I'm required by law to report these situations, I would make a call out of concern. But timing is an odd thing. In my area, because the event didn't happen yet it is not a violation. Only a plan to violate. And once called on it of course they most likely will deny it. If you call during or after that is a different situation. So...pickle. It would not be about if I called to express myself but when. Most likely I would do it before to hopefully stop the event but call back during and after. Then document it. This way I'm covered should something occur. You do not need to tell anyone you called, it is is anonymous. Since they told so many people the list could be miles long. It is unfortunate they are not thinking of what is best for the children. It isn't best to lose placement because they have other plans. They should make a new one.

Answer by frogdawg at 8:48 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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I've seen responsible foster parents that could handle that situation if it got out of control.

But, if CPS finds out they will consider that child endangerment and they may lose the kids, and they will have to go with strangers. I would have them keep that in mind. It's a pretty big risk, although they would most likely give them a warning before they take them away. They don't have to give that warning.

Answer by Candi1024 at 9:11 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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the punishment? the grandparents lose their rights to the kids and the kids go back to foster - again the children are punished for the stupid adults. yes tell on them. kids deserve good role models and their parents and grandparents seem like real failures. CSB needs to know... they arent trustworthy.

Answer by AmaliaD at 11:10 AM on Feb. 16, 2012
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