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Ecclesiastics 21:10?

I'm totally serious. I want to know where this is. A google search has brought about nothing except did you mean Ecclesiastes? and there isn't a 21st Chapter. For someone who says they know the Bible you screwed up big time with this one. I have studied the bible since I was 10. All versions. I'm now 49. So please enlighten me. You also misquoted other verses. So which Bible are you using? A new one that we've not heard of ?

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daps

Asked by daps at 6:22 AM on May. 9, 2012 in Religious Debate

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  • Geesh I'm an idiot that should be AD not BC.
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    Comment by daps (original poster) at 10:55 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • The Douay Rheims Bible was a direct translation from the Latin Vulgate, which was the Bible that everyone used from about 400 BC ( I can't find my timeline so dates will be off. plus I have a 17 yo nagging for computer time) until the reformation.
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    Comment by daps (original poster) at 9:43 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • "Geesh All I asked her more then once was what bible she was using. Believe it or not it can make a difference."

    Honestly, she probably has no idea what she was using. Sadly, many people do not know much about the Bible they so often quote.

    It is possible she somehow has a Douay Rheims Bible, I know they publish them. What I do not know is how traditional the "traditional Douay Rheims Bible" is... anyone know if it has the traditional apocrypha book names, or the changed ones that other Catholic Bibles currently have? Anyway, if she did have one, I think it's funny!
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    Answer by anime_mom619 at 8:43 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Thank you!!!!!!!! it all makes sense now. She's using the old KJV with the apocrypha. It's actually Sirach 21:26. Geesh All I asked her more then once was what bible she was using. Believe it or not it can make a difference.
    daps

    Comment by daps (original poster) at 6:12 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Gotcha^^^
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 2:21 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Does the Catholic Bible not contain the Apocrypha anymore?

    Yes, but that version, the one that words it the way she "borrowed" isn't in use anymore aside from a research tool. It's not even called Ecclesiasticus anymore.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 1:01 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Though I guess it could be possible that she has a copy of that Bible... I mean, if I smoke enough crack I'll believe that she has a book that's nearly 500 yrs old, and she was taking her verses from there....
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    Answer by anime_mom619 at 1:00 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • That's not a current Catholic bible, anyway. It's about 400 years out of date.

    Does the Catholic Bible not contain the Apocrypha anymore? If so, it's news to me. I did the string of comments you guys are referencing, and I would agree that they are just C&Ping. I haven't actually read the comments because they struck me that way.
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 12:57 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Now that you mention it.... Ecclesiasticus is an Apocrypha Book. There is a 21:10, and it is as she quoted. I don't have Douay Rheims Bible (mine's the New American Bible), so I'm not sure exactly where she gets this stuff except for online. It's funny to me that she quotes a Catholic Bible though....

    The way of sinners is made plain with stones, but at the end thereof is the pit of hell.
    - 1769 Oxford King James Bible "Authorized Version"

    The way of sinners is made plaine with stones, but at the ende thereof is the pit of hell.
    - 1611 King James Bible

    The congregation of sinners is like tow heaped together, and the end of them is a flame of fire.
    - Douay Rheims Bible
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    Answer by anime_mom619 at 12:53 PM on May. 9, 2012

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  • Could it be Ecclesiasticus 21:10, from the Douay-Rheims Bible??

    That's not a current Catholic bible, anyway. It's about 400 years out of date. Based on the exact verse copied and pasted, I have a pretty good idea where it came from online, but I suspect, as does daps and a few others, that she has no clue where it came from, or that it's apocryphal. It came up because of the endless spamming of copied text, and the question is if she even actually read it. The site where it came from, which I'd link, except it sets off all the virus alarms, is hardly amenable to anything non-evangelical, so I don't think the place she "borrowed" it from is even aware of the source.
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    Answer by NotPanicking at 12:53 PM on May. 9, 2012

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