So we have all these posts today about how you respect another community or culture by sitting down and shutting up while they go through their assorted religious or social rituals, even if those rituals are illegal, even if they are offensive. Then we have the posts saying that since whoever is speaking has no problem sitting through someone else's religious interjection into a secular event, nobody else should have a problem with it either.
That's very easy to say, in the abstract. How about some concrete examples? Would you sit and remain silent if the prayer you were hearing included sentiments like this:
Or perhaps ones like this?
This one is good - damns multiple faiths and denoms in one:
For those who take the sit down and shut up, you're not the majority, so you're not entitled, approach - would YOU sit down and shut up if any of those pastors gave the invocation at your local town hall meeting? There are parts of the country where each of those viewpoints are "the majority", so that makes it ok, right?Answer Question
Answer by bandgeek521 at 5:36 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 179732 Level 44 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by bandgeek521 at 5:39 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 179732 Level 44 Religious Debate Degree
Excellent points, bandgeek, as usual.
I can't add anything at this time.
Answer by jsbenkert at 5:57 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
I'm confuzzled. Does this mean that the VD fairies like the "shut up and take it" under all circumstances, then? Or are they in favor of people shutting up and taking it as long as it's what the majority wants? Or are they no longer in favor of "sit down, shut up, and deal with it"? I don't understand the meaning of the VDs.
Answer by jsbenkert at 7:04 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by Dardenella at 9:12 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 199582 Level 45 Religious Debate Degree
Maybe they just agree with the pastors in those videos and think all Jews, Catholics, Mormons and anyone who uses a pentacle is a spawn of Satan?
That's really funny, NP, especially since one of the cronies who spoke at the county commission meeting in favor of prayer continuing was none other than June Griffin (I've posted about her before) and she said as part of her speech to the commission, "I urge you to resist the Devil!" No shit! She really said that. Then she followed me around afterwards (I didn't speak, but it was "guilt by association" for her) and she screamed at me that I'm a communist atheist who hates god and the country. People are really like that. Scary.
Answer by jsbenkert at 11:10 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
For fun, you should do a google search of June Griffin to get a really good idea of what sort of person we deal with in the south. Granted, not all of them are this crazy, and those who are, aren't usually quite this fevered, but they do exist. I imagine some of our CM regulars to be very much like her. It makes me giggle.
Answer by jsbenkert at 11:11 PM on Jun. 8, 2012Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by Farmlady09 at 1:30 AM on Jun. 9, 2012Credits: 69572 Level 34 Religious Debate Minor