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Are we encouraging people to remain dependent?

By providing all of these programs, are we enabling people to remain in poverty? I agree these program are needed, but unless someone is severly disabled, I really think we need to create some caps and or lifetime limits...

Food Stamps
TANF
WIC
HUD Voucher
HEAP
Medicaid
Reduced or Free School Breakfasts/Lunches

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Anonymous

Asked by Anonymous at 9:13 AM on Jun. 29, 2012 in Politics & Current Events

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  • Let's add to that list free contraception and taxpayer funded abortion.

    To answer your question, yes, I think we are.
    Iamgr8teful

    Answer by Iamgr8teful at 9:16 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • There is caps on some of them. WIC no kids over age 5
    Food stamps I heard once you can only have it for 2 yrs, dont know if thats true or not
    I know what Medicade and the free lunches is but for the rest I never heard of them.
    LostSoul88

    Answer by LostSoul88 at 9:18 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • There is not a cap on food stamps.

    TANF = Cash Assistance (actually a 3 year cap on this at least in Ohio)

    HUD Vouchers = will pay all or at least a percentage of your housing cost (including a utility allowance)

    HEAP = Utility payments

    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 9:22 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • No, it's no fun trying to live on those things. Bad neighborhoods, small homes, depending on how many apply, LEAP can be very little, Cash assistance is not enough to make life easy. Food Stamps is a program that keeps kids fed and makes the working poor able to concentrate on other bills, because TANF is not an option once you have a job. And it's not a lifelong program
    adnilm

    Answer by adnilm at 9:29 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • Yes I do think that we are encouraging SOME people to remain dependent.
    It is too easy to just not work, maybe have a kid or two and just collect benefits rather than work. It is too easy to blow off school and let someone else foot the bill. There are too many mothers on assisancs whose family tradition is to be on welfare and they teach their children the same thing.

    There are some who need a helping had and should receive it. Some should get it for life and some most assuradly abuse the system.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 9:33 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • HUD vouchers can be used in any neighborhood. And the homes should not be small as there are size requirements based on the number of household members. HEAP can pay 4-6 months of your heating/cooling bills. Thats alot to me!
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 9:42 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • I think this is true for some and not true for others. I have had conversations with several people who have commented that "They have a house, a new car, all the latest gadgets and no job. We are doing to bad now are we". I have also be poked fun at for working when I have a disabled child and can collect SSDI and I don't.

    Years ago in PA every county was to have a local almshouse. The one locally was set up so that they had their own businesses and as a condition of the people living there to receive aid, they had to work at something. It varied by capability. Now if you were extremely disabled, of course you were exempt. I wonder whatever happened to the concept of doing what you can to earn things.
    layh41407

    Answer by layh41407 at 9:48 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • TANF = Cash Assistance (actually a 3 year cap on this at least in Ohio)
    2 year lifetime cap, Idaho. 15 years ago the amount was less than $200. You could not have any income- CS included. And number of kids did not matter.
    So IMO- we have taken steps towards eliminating the Welfare Mother.

    HUD vouchers can be used in any neighborhood- IF the landlord accepts it.
    The residences are inspected for habitability. Otherwise, again Idaho, there is no oversite regarding housing. You can rent a grain cellar as a dwelling. I don't see safe affordable housing as a bad thing.

    We seem to forget, the working poor utilize many of these services. They are paying for these services through their paycheck taxes. Not everyone is just sitting on their bum waiting for someone to do for them. Many are trying to help themselves.
    feralxat

    Answer by feralxat at 10:08 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • Safe & affordable housing is a good thing, but when people keep their vouchers forever instead of working to provide for themselves, it creates problems. 1) There are 2-3 year long waiting periods to receive a voucher so that those who truly need it can't get it. and 2) Look at the huge debt our government has... we can't keep paying rent for so many persons.

    As for the "working poor" paying taxes, they only kinda sorta do. Once you factor in the EITC they actually are getting back everything they paid in and then some!
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 10:30 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

  • Anyone who is inherently lazy will stay on as many of these programs as possible, for as long as possible. They don't really need encouragement ~ just the availability.

    Anyone who wants to work and hits a bad spot will use as little as possible, for as short a time as possible, and get back on their feet.

    There are people who proudly and blatantly abuse the system, abuse the benefits, and who will never get off of them unless forced, and they make it hard for anyone who actually needs help.
    Farmlady09

    Answer by Farmlady09 at 10:37 AM on Jun. 29, 2012

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