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They've even moved the arguing over public nativity scenes ahead of Thanksgiving...

Now, the churches behind the nativity are suing in federal court and claim the city violated their freedom of speech by stopping the holiday tradition.

A court hearing Monday in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles could decide the fate of the Christian tableau for the upcoming season.

The churches want a judge to block the city's ban on private and unattended displays in the park until the case is resolved. The city is asking the court to dismiss the lawsuit entirely.


In all these fights, what I've always wondered - how is not being allowed to set up a display (which you then expect your local government to pay for people to guard and protect) infringing on free speech?  Where does saying, we're not going to deal with the hassle anymore prevent anyone from setting up their own nativity scene in front of their own house or church?

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Asked by NotPanicking at 5:32 PM on Nov. 18, 2012 in Religious Debate

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  • You're not allowed to use well reasoned logic on topics like this- silly girl :)

    Answer by feralxat at 5:40 PM on Nov. 18, 2012

  • If the churches want the right to express their religious beliefs, they have to be willing for other beliefs to be expressed as well when it is on public land. I betcha anything they weren't standing up for the atheist when people were in an uproar.

    Answer by anng.atlanta at 10:37 AM on Nov. 19, 2012

  • Hopefully some wiccan coven will come forward and be permitted to erect their lighted pentacle and their recreation of Stonehenge next to the nativity. Personally, I'd like to put up an Asherah pole, draped with different colored satins. Of course, a depiction of the birth of the god Mithras is totally appropriate to the month of December, since the 25th IS his birthday. The atheist sign recounted his legend and wished him a happy birthday--I saw one picture of it before it exploded off the net. Judeo-christos are so TOUCHY!! And some atheists are too. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander!

    Answer by witchqueen at 5:52 PM on Nov. 19, 2012

  • Nothing that has ever happened on public property or government property has ever stopped me from celebrating and decorating on my own property. Why do others find this hard to do?

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 6:12 PM on Nov. 18, 2012

  • I think if the Nativity scene was allowed for 60 years then it was obviously okay with the locals. I believe in the freedom of religious expression, that being said, I would've been fine with the atheist doing his non-religious scene. I must say, I don't understand why something Atheists don't believe in is so offensive, annoying, or whatever sentiment was behind the putting up the non-religious scene.

    Answer by HHx5 at 10:00 AM on Nov. 19, 2012

  • I was hoping there was a pic of the atheist display. Anyhoo, they can still put displays in front of their churches.

    Answer by 3libras at 2:53 PM on Nov. 19, 2012

  • Oy Vey! Of all the ....I can't even finish the thought. (Well I can, but I won't) It's not even here yet and I am already sick of christmas. Can we please have thanksgiving first ? Christmas gets pushed in our faces earlier and earlier every year. Why do some atheists have to nitpick every little thing? Especially since it's been a tradition for the last 60 years. Why do they choose to be drama hounds now? I hope the law suit gets thrown out. I also hope they can reach some kind of compromise such as allowing both displays in different areas of the park.

    Answer by 2autisticsmom at 7:39 PM on Nov. 18, 2012

  • I hate Christmas... I really, really do. It's not even Thanksgiving and I'm sick and tired of Christmas.

    Answer by anime_mom619 at 12:28 PM on Nov. 19, 2012

  • I don't care really but I will play Devil's advocate. Could someone say they have the right, in a public park, to express their religious beliefs? That anyone should be able to do that in a public space?

    Answer by frogdawg at 8:52 PM on Nov. 18, 2012

  • I am curious about what the Atheists scene was?

    Answer by Anonymous at 11:50 AM on Nov. 19, 2012

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