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Does the truth matter at all in the Savita case? (spin-off)

Now we are learning that there may not have even been a request from the family for an abortion:

It appears that the reporter, Ms. Holland, may have misrepresented the facts in an attempt to challenge the nation's laws prohibiting abortion.  This is a personal tragedy that has been exploited to further an agenda.  Does the end justify the means?  Do we even care about journalistic ethics and professionalism?

I am placing this in RD because there was a recent discussion there about this case.




Asked by Iamgr8teful at 8:28 PM on Dec. 3, 2012 in Religious Debate

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Answers (11)
  • That's why it's better to let people investigate first. It's unfortunate for the women's family, but there is no reason to believe an abortion would have saved her life. Ending a pregnancy can help with preeclampsia and heart conditions however these problems almost always occur in the third trimester when the infant can survive. It was reported that this women had some blood infection. Abortion isn't going to help her survive this.

    This case still needs to be fully documented and investigated, and yes journalists should be held to a high standard. This case was not treated well by any of the press because it was only for ratings it was never based on facts.

    Answer by RyansMom001 at 8:41 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • No, I don't think the end justify the means. If the initial report was indeed exaggerated to promote a pro-choice cause, shame on the people involved exploiting a tragedy like this to further their cause.

    Answer by momto2boys973 at 9:19 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • I stopped reading at

    I don't own enough tinfoil to surf conspiracy-laden message boards that churn out user content disguised as news articles.

    Answer by NotPanicking at 11:11 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • Of course the truth matters.

    A woman was denied an abortion by religious extremists, and they killed her. There's your truth.

    Answer by FreeForAll at 8:59 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • Can we really have an un-biased press? Everybody seems to have an agenda and a spin. Lack of education, lack of integrity, lack of principles, all of the above? I know this was in Ireland but is the press here straight-shooters? No, we need to get back to the facts and let people make up their own minds. What a sad story!

    Answer by HHx5 at 12:54 AM on Dec. 4, 2012

  • "There was a lot of hateful anti-Christian sentiment here in RD because of Ms. Holland's false report. "

    there was? i dont remember that. unless disagreeing with what happened means we are all hateful anti-Christians.

    "In another post, one person said that she hoped all of the Christians would get the flu and die, and another person voted up that response."

    dont tie us all to that! just cause one mom & the mom who upvoted her are bitches when it comes to ppl having any beliefs about God doesnt mean everyone in RD is hoping you die.

    Answer by okmanders at 2:39 PM on Dec. 4, 2012

  • Free for All, that may be your truth, but if you read the article, there is no evidence in the hospital records that Ms. Savita asked for an abortion. Did you read the article? The reporter seems to be trying to wiggle her way out of what she originally said. Will you still stand by your statement even when we are seeing evidence to the contrary?

    There was a lot of hateful anti-Christian sentiment here in RD because of Ms. Holland's false report. In another post, one person said that she hoped all of the Christians would get the flu and die, and another person voted up that response. I don't like the term "haters", but if it applies anywhere, I think it applies here.

    Ron Paul said that in all of his years of practice, he never had a case where an abortion was necessary to save the mother's life. Ryansmom is correct - the usual reason for needing to end a pregnancy is preeclampsia, and the baby can often survive.

    Comment by Iamgr8teful (original poster) at 9:38 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • Okay, so the reporter is now put on the spot by other reporters who are looking for a story, and she is super wiggly. I'm not convinced that she made it all up (although a scapegoat/distraction can be handy and clearly sells more articles). In earlier articles (sorry, don't want to bother looking them up) I read quotes from the husband who insists they did ask for an abortion and was denied and all that, but these requests are not in her records. And the husband is finding all of this really sketchy. He even said that they made all kinds of detailed notes where she asked for tea and such, but left out the request for an abortion? And apparently until it started making international headlines, several members of the team who the government appointed to investigate this death worked at the hospital and had clear conflicts of interest. The husband seemed unsure if the truth will ever be revealed to the public. I doubt it will.

    Answer by Sebbiemama at 9:54 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • Interesting. I also read that the government-appointed head of the inquiry into Savita's death is the president-elect of a radical pro-abortion group, FIGO. That seems to me to be a conflict of interest. He has spoken publicly about how he believes that countries with laws against abortion should be "challenged". It's unfortunate that they could not find someone more impartial to conduct this investigation. Hopefully the truth will come out. Regardless, it is unlikely that an abortion, or even an early delivery, would have helped. When someone has septicemia, they frequently have an elevated heart rate and blood pressure problems. The body is stressed. It is not going to help to induce birth or subject the person to an invasive procedure like a D&E. She needed antibiotics, and there is some question about whether she was given any.

    Comment by Iamgr8teful (original poster) at 10:24 PM on Dec. 3, 2012

  • if she didnt ask for an abortion then this is a non issue imo.
    if she did ask for an abortion, was denied it, and that caused her to die, then it IS an issue.

    this is not the first nor last time journalists (may have) got things wrong (on purpose or on accident). either way, it doesnt change anything for anyone.

    Answer by okmanders at 2:24 PM on Dec. 4, 2012