Here's the clip for that. Essentially, for those if you who don't or won't check out links, O'Reilly says that people can display Christian images on public property because Christianity is not a religion, but a philosophy. He says that people don't have to believe in Jesus, but just think he was a pretty cool guy, to be considered Christian . . . in O'Reilly's usual convoluted way of thinking.
In response, an attorney for the FFRF responded that O'Reilly is not a Catholic unless he agrees, believes and follows all church doctrines, no exceptions. This is according to Canon Law 752 (Can. 752 Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it.)
From the article:
Catholics cannot pick and choose from the tenets of their religion. Arguably the most repellent precept in Canon law is also the most important for people claiming to be Catholic: “. . . [A] religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals . . . therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it.” Canon 752. This anti-human, totalitarian sentiment lies at the heart of all religions, but one rarely sees it stated so baldly: “a religious submission of the intellect and will.”
Not only must Catholics believe all church doctrines, if you consider yourself a Catholic you are bound to avoid any contrary doctrines: “A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed . . . all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them.” Canon 750, §1.
Even worse, the Catholic code specifically states that if you are not firmly for every tenet of the faith, you are against the faith: “Each and every thing which is proposed definitively by the magisterium of the Church concerning the doctrine of faith and morals . . . is also to be firmly embraced and retained; therefore, one who rejects those propositions which are to be held definitively is opposed to the doctrine of the Catholic Church.” Canon 750, §2. If you don’t believe what we tell you to believe, you’re not one of us.
Now that we’ve established that true Catholics must submit their intellect and will to every church command, what does the church command? Ridiculous beliefs abound in Canon law, but let’s limit our inquiry to two: transubstantiation and birth control.
So, what do you think? Can a person who doesn't believe in Jesus as god be a Christian? Isn't the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and the path to salvation one of the most important requirements for Christians?
What about being Catholic? When Catholic law dictates that you MUST believe every aspect of Catholic doctrine in order to be a Catholic, does that mean that all those who don't really believe that bread and wine actually become the flesh and blood of a god via the magic words spoken by a priest, or all those Catholic women who practice some sort of birth control . . . can't actually be Catholic? That's what the law says, anyway.Answer Question
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