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Did anyone see The View? There was a forensic psychologist on there that made a TON of sense in regards to all these school shootings

It's not really about guns,it's not really about mental illness
He said,we've always had guns,we've always had mentally ill people,so what's new about these instances?
It seems that the new parenting styles are not just a historical anecdote. We as a society are responsible for churning out these kids
They have no personal responsibility. If they fail in school,it's the teacher's fault. If they lose their job,it's the boss's fault,not the fact that they never showed up to work
They are so quick to blame someone else,and it's coupled with violence everywhere we go. Video games,movies,tv
Parents think nothing of letting their kids play violent games for 12 hours a day instead of making them go interact with real people.
So we end up with kids raised on violence and isolation. Some of these are mentally ill as well
These guys see the mass killings as going to war. They don't see the people as real. They are just targets in a game,enemies to be eliminated
We should all be VERY scared
The psychologist said these killings are not over,and we haven't seen the worst yet
Unless we completely change every aspect of our society,we're screwed
He pointed out that other countries have guns,yet they don't have a fraction of the gun deaths we do.
We're messed up here in the USA

 
butterflyblue19

Asked by butterflyblue19 at 12:44 PM on Dec. 17, 2012 in Politics & Current Events

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  • I am sorry II missed this one.
    And IMO he is right.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 12:46 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • Oh for Christ's sake! Listen to some of you! The world isn't going to hell in a handbasket. We don't live in a country full of psychotic kids just waiting to attack us all. Society isn't screwed and we don't have to be scared.

    *sigh* Let's just think rationally about this, shall we? Everyone has an opinion on this and other tragedies, but scare tactics aren't going to get us anywhere. There are a lot of factors involved here. The biggest culprit, imo, is the media coverage of these events. You do have to factor in mental illness, and parenting, and all those other things as well, but you cannot simply place the blame on any one thing. I'm a good parent, most people here are good parents (as good as we can be at least). We are not raising mass murderers. To say that all parents today are bad parents, and that all kids are selfish and shun responsibility is, imo, irresponsible. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
    anime_mom619

    Answer by anime_mom619 at 2:38 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • This guy who did this horrific shooting wanted to go down in history, to be put all over the news.....just sick.....also, ppl get away with too much on FACEBOOK, too much freedom of speach, horrible shit is shown & said on there with no consequences and I am scared of the copycats who get off on this media frenzy.
    sarasmommy777

    Answer by sarasmommy777 at 1:03 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • i cant help but think about the Ebert quote that was posted a few days ago.

    if this man HADNT said what all of us want to hear, he wouldnt be on the View. just saying, he could be saying this just to get his 15 mins by scaring the viewers into sensationalism. "everyone be scared that you're raising your kids wrong...even tho these kind of events are actually less than they were in the 80s & 90s" did he also hawk a book?

    im not saying things are perfect, i dont like young kids having tons of technology, i dont like the way we wait for mentally ill ppl to commit a crime before we get them help, and i dont like the "just a friend" parenting style (which i rarely ever see from parents my own age, but rather older parents). but id be wary of any one using the "kids today..." argument when it's been a problem since the 70s.
    okmanders

    Answer by okmanders at 2:01 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • i cant help but think about the Ebert quote that was posted a few days ago.

    if this man HADNT said what all of us want to hear, he wouldnt be on the View. just saying, he could be saying this just to get his 15 mins by scaring the viewers into sensationalism. "everyone be scared that you're raising your kids wrong...even tho these kind of events are actually less than they were in the 80s & 90s" did he also hawk a book?

    This 1000 times. I find issues with several of the things he pointed out. First being the video games, and if anyone has access to academic journals, I'll be happy to link you to the studies showing that violent and sports games actually RELIEVE stress and channel aggression - peer reviewed academic studies, not shrinks with books to sell. Even as this guy is whining about don't blame anyone else, he then goes on to blame the parents. Idiot and hypocrite.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 2:03 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • one word:
    Paranoia
    charlotsomtimes

    Answer by charlotsomtimes at 2:29 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • . He was an extreme, think rainman-esque. He was brilliant on some things, but showed no apathy or empathy for living things. He was never able to repeat anything exactly the same way, even after 6 months of teaching. He brought up extremely inappropriate, random topics and didn't seem to understand that it was wrong. He would make up scenarios that never happened. He would become extremely agitated even over slight criticisms

    What you've just described is Asperger's syndrome, not psychosis. Someone with Asperger's is the least likely to commit a violent act. Someone with a different chemical imbalance, personality disorder, or neurological issue besides or in addition to Asperger's might, but it has nothing to do with the Asperger's, any more than a mass murderer with high cholesterol did it because of the cholesterol.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 3:23 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • He's right, I've been saying it forever
    funlovinlady

    Answer by funlovinlady at 12:49 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • while all of that may be true, when I was a teen/young adult these sort of things, rape etc were not televised nearly as much as they are these days. I had no clue unless I actually watched the news that such and such county had a serial rapist or 15 people were killed by a crazed gun man. It just wasnt glamorized as it is today.

    it infuriates me because these freaks out there want to one up everyone, stop televising it and posting it all over the net as if its the biggest thing in history. It is infact very huge and painful to hear and see BUT they go out as well known as the stars even if its just the news. It goes in sprees- and I truly believe its because of the glamour these wackos feel the gunman is getting.

    There is absolutely no easy answer to making it better, we have always and will always have crazy people. If they want to kill, they will find a way.
    luvmygrandbaby

    Answer by luvmygrandbaby at 12:52 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

  • I live in Canada, we are not as gun crazy here, and I agree totally...our kids need to be safe....no doubt ppl were feeling some anxiety dropping their kids off today.
    sarasmommy777

    Answer by sarasmommy777 at 1:17 PM on Dec. 17, 2012

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