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Is it okay to blame the humanists?

I thought this was an interesting perspective on the "godless schools" argument put forth by such shining examples of Christian love as Huckabee and Fischer, blaming secularism for the violence we've experienced in this nation.

While many are offended by such claims that the cases of violence can be blamed on the presence/non-presence of a benevolent/malevolent god, few consider the implication of the words by the likes of Gingrich, Fischer et al.  To suggest that the problems of this nation are due to the (supposedly) increased secularism of our society is to blame humanists/atheists for the rise in deadly violence.

If we were to look at other developed nations that don't impose religion or prayer on the public through schools or other government agencies, we would not see the same crime rate as we have here, in the U.S.  So, while atheists are blamed for the increased violence here, in the U.S. (indirectly, of course, through euphemisms and flawed logic), other developed nations enjoy more peace and better mental health.  

It is not religion that prevents senseless violence.

It is not atheists who cause it, either. 

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jsbenkert

Asked by jsbenkert at 10:47 PM on Dec. 19, 2012 in Religious Debate

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  • Humanism refers to philosophy's and mortality, centered on human kind, without any attention to any notions of the divine.

    Sounds realistic, and maybe if more people, regardless of their beliefs, just step back and remember the basics of human kindness.

    Blame the humanists, no! But it seems people have a hard time separating religion from any event that happens in this world.
    PMSMom10

    Answer by PMSMom10 at 11:30 PM on Dec. 19, 2012

  • I have not seen the blame placed on the humanists or atheist except in the radical circles. Most people do not value there opinions anyway.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 11:42 PM on Dec. 19, 2012

  • Ugh, don't get me started on crap like this.
    JulieJacobKyle

    Answer by JulieJacobKyle at 11:49 PM on Dec. 19, 2012

  • I like the way you ended this. "It is not religion that prevents senseless violence. It is not atheists who cause it, either. I couldn't have said it better myself. As for the Christians who spout off their drizzling bulls**t about God laying down judgment or turning away from us in anger and letting us ruin ourselves, it makes me ashamed to be called Christian with them. I am not ashamed of Jesus Christ, or of my belief in Jesus Christ, but organized religionand its leaders are often worthy of our loathing.
    Ballad

    Answer by Ballad at 12:00 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • i think the Huckabees of America are starting to realize their grip on US citizens is slipping away. no one cares what their version of God says anymore. so they use any and every horrible occurrence to round up & rile up normal Christians for their own causes. they are scared and probably fear that their own beliefs wont be the ruler of America for much longer. i often cant help but wonder if these types worry that their beliefs arent valid if everyone around them doesnt share them.

    so of course it isnt the humanists...its not any rational logical thinking human, Christian or Atheist or any belief. its the power-hungry greedy politicians who divert money from mental health when ever possible and then question why mentally ill ppl are constantly doing horrible things. its the mentally ill loser who flips out & murders. our problem isnt a lack of God, its many things, but not that.
    okmanders

    Answer by okmanders at 12:07 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • \If we were to look at other developed nations that don't impose religion or prayer on the public through schools or other government agencies, we would not see the same crime rate as we have here, in the U.S.  So, while atheists are blamed for the increased violence here, in the U.S. (indirectly, of course, through euphemisms and flawed logic), other developed nations enjoy more peace and better mental health.  


    It is not religion that prevents senseless violence.


    It is not atheists who cause it, either. 


     


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    Yup

    charlotsomtimes

    Answer by charlotsomtimes at 6:22 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • Of course they are going to blame atheists.  Christianity absolves people of personal responsibility so they HAVE to blame someone.  I'm surpised that they haven't blamed Canada yet!

    beeky

    Answer by beeky at 7:32 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • Blaming humanists for the evils of our world is like blaming Mr Rogers for not being able to read.
    anng.atlanta

    Answer by anng.atlanta at 8:44 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • It's simplistic to point fingers at one particular group or issue. The situation is far more complicated than that.
    momto2boys973

    Answer by momto2boys973 at 8:55 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

  • Not much different than those who ask "If there is a God, why does he allow this" as a way to turn the screws on those that believe in God-
    soyousay

    Answer by soyousay at 9:04 AM on Dec. 20, 2012

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