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*Should* the Bible have any place in the Inauguration?

This nation was not founded on the Bible or the Ten Commandments.  In fact, freedom was the foundation of this nation, including freedom of (and from) religion.  Agree or disagree, but all evidence points to that.

What I'd like to discuss, though, are the points made in this segment of The Last Word, especially this:

“We will ensure that whoever delivers the benediction rejects the same parts of the Bible that President Obama rejects and most Democrats reject, even though every word of the Bible is the word of God,” O’Donnell said. “As I’ve pointed out … no one accepts all of the teachings of the Bible. No one. … Still, the president, following one of our most absurdest traditions in the government that invented the separation of church and state, will put his hand on this book filled with things he does not believe – filled with things that no one in the United States of America believes – and with his hand on this book he will recite the oath of office. ”

(Bold and italics are mine, not O'Donnell's)

The video is worth watching, too - especially when he talks about the parts of the Bible that command death to prostitutes, death to those who work on the Sabbath, etc.

 

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jsbenkert

Asked by jsbenkert at 1:40 PM on Jan. 11, 2013 in Religious Debate

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  • Ah, now that you have changed the title, hell no it shouldn't. But you know that right winged Christians will flip the fuck out if anyone ever changes it.
    JulieJacobKyle

    Answer by JulieJacobKyle at 2:11 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • John Adams swore in on a book of law. It really just comes down to the personal choice of the chosen president. They are not forced to use a Bible.
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:22 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • From time Magazine:
    While most presidential oaths have been administered by the Chief Justice--Roger Taney swore in seven Commanders in Chief, a record--it's not required. Calvin Coolidge's father, a notary public, presided over one of his son's two oaths, in 1923. Presidents can choose to affirm instead of swear (although only one has: the devout Franklin Pierce). And most have added "So help me God" at the end, as George Washington is believed to have done, though historians now dispute it. Several Presidents, including George W. Bush, were sworn in on the Washington Bible, a 10-lb. volume belonging to a New York Freemasons' society. John Quincy Adams, to keep a barrier between church and state, was sworn in on a book of U.S. laws. Harry S Truman used two Bibles in 1949--one, a gift from friends; the other, the one he used in his 1945 Inauguration. No matter what book or how many, an oath is an oath: the swearer is con't
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:29 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • officially considered President from that moment on. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1871905,00.html

    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:29 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • So . . . should the president (or anyone) swear on a book, the contents of which he or she does not believe?  Is it meaningful if the person does not believe in the book, or the bulk of it?

    jsbenkert

    Comment by jsbenkert (original poster) at 2:51 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • I think it doesn't matter- no matter what your hand is on - the oath is what comes out of your mouth the rest is all for show.
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:53 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • Even Quincy Adam's choice was for show. He swore in on the book of law not because he disagreed with the Bible but because he wanted to make a statement about the separation of church and state. I wonder if he believed in everything inside that Law book...?
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:55 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • *John Quincy Adams.
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 2:56 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • Not only should it not be done it should be banned. Our presidents should be swearing on our constitution as this is what they are to uphold. Not one chosen religion over another.
    sahmamax2

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 3:12 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

  • But what he puts his hand on has no bearing on... well, anything. Though the president has to be sworn in to be acknowledged as the President he could place his hand on a box of chocolates if that is what was meaningful to him. By banning his ability to choose what book he 'swears' or 'affirms' on that is imposing on his freedom.
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 3:18 PM on Jan. 11, 2013

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