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Why are school shootings so rare in Europe?

Winterglow? Others? I've been curious about this since the post last week about the California shooting, and the spin-off questions. Any ideas?

 
Ballad

Asked by Ballad at 5:00 PM on Jan. 14, 2013 in Politics & Current Events

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  • School shootings happen (the last one here was political). Kidnappings happen. I feel as if I live in another world perhaps because we don't seem to have the same kind of hysteria generated around these things. Perhaps also because we don't have a culture of "needing" a gun to protect oneself (which is basically historical). Perhaps because we trust our police to do their jobs right (in the UK the police are not armed ...). There are so many things that go into this - our laws are different, our history is different, our culture is different - it's all interconnnected.
    winterglow

    Answer by winterglow at 3:38 AM on Jan. 15, 2013

  • 18-year-old gunman killed two people and wounded seven others after going on a shooting rampage also happened in Finland. This kid just fired several shots from a low rooftop at people gathered outside a restaurant. Then there was that gunman Anders Behring Breivik that killed 77 people in a rampage in Norway. Then 2 years ago, you had the shooting in Austria at a Sikh Temple. There have been several multiple-victim public shootings in France over the last couple of years. Over the last decade, you’ve had a couple of big school shootings in Germany. Germany in terms of modern incidents has two of the four worst public-school shootings, and they have very strict gun-control laws.
    Our media and government just doesn't report that stuff here cause they want us to believe we are nothing but a of crazed maniacs shooting everything that moves. Europe has VERY tight gun control, but they have the same problem as us.
    Michigan-Mom74

    Answer by Michigan-Mom74 at 6:21 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • Stricter gun laws and nationalized mental health care?
    SWasson

    Answer by SWasson at 5:12 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • But Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings, including school shootings, if you look at a per capita rate. The rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other. A couple of years ago you had a couple of big shootings in Finland.This country also has seen two deadly school shootings. In 2008, a culinary student killed nine fellow students and a teacher before shooting himself at a vocational school in the western town of Kauhajoki.
    A year earlier, an 18-year-old killed six fellow students, a nurse and the principal at a high school in Tuusula, southern Finland.
    Two months ago, a 23-year-old gunman wounded the father of his former girlfriend in an office building before firing several shots through a classroom door in southern Finland.
    >>>
    Michigan-Mom74

    Answer by Michigan-Mom74 at 6:01 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • Also they don't have the "Merica" bravado and think that shooting up shit is so cool. In addition to what SWasson said
    butterflyblue19

    Answer by butterflyblue19 at 6:01 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • Don't confuse 'what I see on my US news station' with "all that happens in the world." How often do you turn on the nightly news broadcast, or pull up a news web site and see the day-to-day stories from the UK, France, Italy, etc. You don't. You see big news stories that have international ripples - just as they don't hear the day-to-day stories here. They'll hear the major headlines that make huge waves. They don't hear the little stuff. Travel abroad and turn into local news. In our pre-kid years, DH and I spent a week in French Polynesia. The first resort had no TV access. The other second did but we were limited to European based channels. Big headlines at home? Barely mentioned on Europe's version of CNN. It was a major World Series making big headlines at home - it was a footnote after cricket and football (aka soccer) on European ESPN.
    ldmrmom

    Answer by ldmrmom at 12:06 AM on Jan. 15, 2013

  • Bingo ^^^^
    3libras

    Answer by 3libras at 5:34 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • Why did the focus automatically go to gun control while ignoring healthcare? Hmmmmm.....?
    3libras

    Answer by 3libras at 6:46 PM on Jan. 14, 2013

  • Further, don't confuse "I saw it on the news" with "not rare." Things make big headlines BECAUSE they are not common, every day events. When school shootings occur and don't generate non-stop news coverage, then worry. Things aren't news when they stop being uncommon. Schools are in session 5 days a week for roughly 10 months a year. There are thousands of schools in every state. There are days, there are weeks, there are months, there are even years, that go by without a massacre on school property. It's why stuff like Columbine and Sandy Hook draw the media attention. It *is* rare here.

    Check out stories like this:
    http://www.expatica.com/be/news/local_news/mass-shootings-in-europe_195344.html (article from 2011 just listing incidents)
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/06/10/john-lott-america-gun-ban-murders-multiple-victim-public-shootings-europe/ (opinion piece from 2010 but also lists incidents)

    ldmrmom

    Answer by ldmrmom at 12:14 AM on Jan. 15, 2013

  • If one does not use a gun, they will use another weapon of choice. I would like to know about the bombings, stabbings ect, compared to the USA. Tighter gun laws do not stop mass killings by another means.

    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 6:38 PM on Jan. 14, 2013