New executive order - all medical workers are encouraged to ask their patients if they have guns in their home, and report it to law enforcement if it bothers them

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/01/16/here-are-the-23-executive-orders-on-gun-safety-signed-today-by-the-president/

The other 22 are also at the link above. Including - have the CDC research gun violence. Because it's the GUN that's the symptom, and these people would never act out without one, yeah, that's it.

So again, the response to irrational fear is to increase fear and paranoia while ignoring the actual problem. The other orders include spelling out exactly what mental health services medicaid should cover...except they don't even know what services those are. 3 orders later is the one saying, oh yeah, we should figure out what services should be offered.

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Asked by NotPanicking at 2:53 PM on Jan. 16, 2013 in Politics & Current Events

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So, dr. Patient confidentiality goes out the window? Forward!

Answer by QuinnMae at 2:55 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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If asked tell them it is your constitutional right not to answer any such questions.

Answer by Dardenella at 2:56 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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The NY law was bad enough only involving mental health. Now it's any part-time PA who has an issue with guns can report you if you say yes and they think your allergies have you irritable.

Hopefully, law enforcement will weed out the whiny complaints, but let's face it - they'll have to spend the money and resources to check out ALL of them, no matter how many times it's some paranoid urgent care worker crying wolf, just to make sure they don't miss the one legitimate threat buried in the haystack.

Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 2:58 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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If asked tell them it is your constitutional right not to answer any such questions.

And then they turn you in for being evasive and suspicious...

Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 2:59 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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what's sad is i have people on my facebook "friends" list that agree and support this action. 'it only expands the radar, so the ones that slip through the cracks will be visible' - their words. yeah, okay.

Answer by tnm786 at 3:00 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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We are in deep, deep doo-doo!

Answer by NannyB. at 3:00 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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That is designed to stop the mentally ill/unstable from having guns in their homes. The only ones reported will be those deemed unstable. But, they can't just come flat out & say that. So, honestly I'm in support of it.

Answer by 3libras at 3:01 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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Except that who's actually gonna admit to having guns knowing this now? I mean really... healthcare workers are supposed to ask women if they feel safe in their home. Even if an abused woman does get a moment alone to confide in a nurse, how often do they really confide? Not often. And what happens when they do confide? Not much. Sometimes the situation is just made worse.

Oohhh... and he wants to fuck with HIPAA too? Hmmm....

Most of this is bullshit and intended to make us feel good that the president is doing something about this. It will all get bogged down in bureaucratic nonsense, and no real solutions will ever come to light. What a joke.

Answer by anime_mom619 at 3:03 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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The only ones reported will be those deemed unstable.

Do you honestly believe the nurse who frequently posts here and believes all gun owners are a danger to society will limit herself to reporting the "mentally ill/unstable"? Do you think she's the only medical professional with that attitude? Off the top of my head, I know of one doctor in particular who would happily turn in anyone who wasn't a patient, but that he knew owned a gun, just to get them under investigation.

Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 3:05 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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nat one of those that he signed is going to make a damn bit of difference. There are so many untreated and unknown mentally ill people that it wont matter who turns who in. I will tell you now my answer will always be nope dont own any weapons that would kill or harm someone. I can truthfully answer that way because the Person does it not the weapon.

Answer by luvmygrandbaby at 3:08 PM on Jan. 16, 2013
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