There’s nothing, no matter how heinous, which can’t be excused by the ardent believer. Just cling on to the idea that God is unfathomable, and presto, genocide and killing of innocents become moral and justified, though you can’t explain how. ~trj
Answer by sahmamax2 at 9:09 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 73412 Level 35 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by NannyB. at 7:49 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 61485 Level 33 Religious Debate 101
I don't believe God does any of these terrible things. He isn't there to keep us from experiencing pain, he's there to help us through it. God doesn't cause people to sin. Oh good! Maybe you can explain how the fire and brimstone that god rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah "helped them"? And the how pain felt by the pregnant mothers who died at the end of the Israelite swords (along with their unborn and innocent babies) was eased by the knowlege that their death was "god's will"? And what sin David's newborn son committed that could possibly have been so much worse than his father's murder of Bathsheba's husband and his adultery with her that the infant had to die? I have more questions when you have answered these!
Answer by witchqueen at 5:21 PM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 38709 Level 29 Religious Debate Degree
God pretty much sums up that we are not able to completely understand Him because His ways are higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9).
You are comparing God to human mentality and God is so far above us & our way of thinking. He created life. He created us. He knows everything. He knows the heart of every single person ever born. He knows the impact of their choices in life, and the impact of their death (present and future). He knows every thought ever thought.
God is all light and no darkness. He is holy and just. I think people question these things when they do not see God as completely holy. God is not capable of evil. If you do not believe He is capable of evil then all that is done must be for a divine purpose even though we may not understand it completely. Someday we will.
Answer by deedee3849 at 8:42 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 664 Level 12 Religious Debate 101
Most importantly, I can't justify to myself worshiping an invisible, unproven deity that would perform such heinous acts towards those that he claims to love & created.
Answer by 3libras at 9:18 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 370514 Level 50 Religious Debate Minor
Answer by sahmamax2 at 9:40 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 73412 Level 35 Religious Debate Degree
Let's see . . . God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent. He created humans, with full knowledge that he, the perfect being, has created something extremely flawed, plants a tree that he forbids them to touch, knowing that Eve will be tempted by the snake that God created, and knowing that he will have to punish Adam and Eve for crimes that he knew they would commit. He had to know. He's omniscient. Then, after a few generations of incest, murder (often commanded by God, even though he has made commandments against it), and other bad behavior, he decides to flood the earth to cleanse it of his disobedient creations (even killing pregnant women (and their fetuses), children, and all the animals that weren't lucky enough to have been chosen by Noah to board the little boat.
Answer by jsbenkert at 9:48 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by sahmamax2 at 9:52 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 73412 Level 35 Religious Debate Degree
And in this book, this inerrant word of his, he gives instructions on how to purchase other people, when and how to beat them, when to marry the women you rape, how much money to spend while purchasing a wife, what sort of bloody sacrifices are appropriate, adds a little pornographic material, demonstrates his might with stories of slaughter, asks his favorites to kill their own children as proof of their fidelity and love of him, gives directions on when to kill entire cities of people, when to rape, when to pillage, etc.
It's an amazing book, that justifies God's actions by simply being the book that people believe was written or inspired by God himself.
Answer by jsbenkert at 9:56 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 87630 Level 37 Religious Debate Degree
Answer by HHx5 at 8:27 AM on Feb. 15, 2013Credits: 16828 Level 23 Religious Debate Minor