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Phones at school in light of emergencies

This is the ongoing saga of someone I went to school with who has a teenage daughter. Daughter got in trouble for texting at school, all well and good, everyone agrees, bad thing, don't do it, take your detention. Here's the conflict - the dean of her school has decided the punishment ongoing is that she is not allowed to be in possession of her phone on school grounds, ever. Not at lunch, not before school, never. Any time she is caught with a phone in her hand, even if it's not on, she is disciplined, to the point where it's reached suspensions.

Here's her mom's view - the school regularly goes on lockdown. Not just due to sensationalist stuff like bomb threats, but due to the typical drug dealer/gangbanger type stuff that shows up at any school in a metro area these days. It has resulted in things like some schools being evacuated while others are on lock-down, and parents not being able to pin down where each of their kids are, or make arrangements for the high school age ones to watch the little ones.

If the phone is not on (at one point they suspended her for having a phone in her purse with a dead battery), should the school still have grounds to discipline for being in possession of it?

 

ETA: everyone seems focused on the rule breaking and ignoring what the rule actually is, which is the point of the question - is it a good idea to have that kind of rule to begin with, whether it's broken or not?

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NotPanicking

Asked by NotPanicking at 4:52 PM on Feb. 15, 2013 in Parenting Debate

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  • Are any students allowed to have a cell phone on them?

    JeremysMom

    Answer by JeremysMom at 5:21 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • Sorry, I lost my train of thought. Yes, she can carry it IMO, just never let them see her with it.
    m-avi

    Answer by m-avi at 5:21 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • Are any students allowed to have a cell phone on them?

    Taken away if they take them out, but she's the only one (that I know of) they actively look beyond her hand for one.
    NotPanicking

    Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 5:22 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • The school has a rule of no cell phones. The girl broke the rule so now she can not be trusted. Whether it is in her hand or dead in her purse, she broke the rule so now she is paying the consequence for it.

    JeremysMom

    Answer by JeremysMom at 5:27 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • I find it interesting everyone is focusing on the rule breaking and desperately ignoring the emergency factor. Is that rule safe or justified in light of the climate these days?
    NotPanicking

    Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 5:31 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • I think it is justified *if* she was warned several times the privilege would be lost. The school has phones as do many of other students if there was an emergency. I am sure not every kid in the school has one...
    But_Mommie

    Answer by But_Mommie at 5:37 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • Is that rule safe or justified in light of the climate these days?




    What did people do before cell phones? As far as the "climate these days", there are no more shootings and violence in schools than there was 10-40 years ago. There are just now more media attention to these things. 

    JeremysMom

    Answer by JeremysMom at 5:38 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • As far as the "climate these days", there are no more shootings and violence in schools than there was 10-40 years ago.

    No, but there are more lockdowns. In some parts of the country it's a regular occurrence at the first hint of trouble, things that 10 years ago would've been broken up by the biggest male teacher in the general area and dealt with in the office while the rest of the school went on its way. So the argument is that the no phone rule is ok since other students will have one and then they can break the rule to let her use it? That makes even less sense.
    NotPanicking

    Comment by NotPanicking (original poster) at 5:42 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • So the argument is that the no phone rule is ok since other students will have one and then they can break the rule to let her use it? That makes even less sense.


    I never said that. If schools go on lockdown, then a phone call is generally sent out to all the parents. I work at a school and we go on lock down a couple of times a year. Last year we went on perimeter lockdown because of a murder (that involved a student's parent that was on the loose). As far as the parents trying to "pin down" their child(ren). Well if they are on lockdown, then they are at school. And as far as the older student watching the younger child, then they need to have a plan. If this happens then this plan is in place. 

    JeremysMom

    Answer by JeremysMom at 5:49 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

  • I am also confused on why the parent would need the high school student to watch the elementary school student because of a lock down. If you are referring to on a normal day, the parent has to work overtime and needs for the high schooler to go home and watch their siblings, then the parent can leave a message for their child at their school (at least that is what my high school did). If we had a message in the office, our name was called at the end of the day to come to the office and pick up our message(s).

    JeremysMom

    Answer by JeremysMom at 5:52 PM on Feb. 15, 2013

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