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Federal gun laws didn't block Navy Yard shooter

The gunman managed to exploit loopholes in the gun laws to get guns anyway. Anyone else seeing the irony in this tragedy?

Federal gun laws didn't block Navy Yard shooter

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Rosehawk

Asked by Rosehawk at 6:59 PM on Sep. 17, 2013 in Politics & Current Events

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  • True D.C. is a gun free place. That just applies to the law abiding citizens though.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 7:26 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • Not only that, but when cities that have strict gun laws refuse to prosecute gun crimes they become a big part of the overall problem. Writing and passing more legislation is the lazy person's path.


    The guy obviously had a mental health issue so obviously lets just turn a blind eye to that big elephant in the room and just focus on how we need to ban more guns or make more prohibitive laws for law abiding citizens to submit to.

    QuinnMae

    Answer by QuinnMae at 8:54 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • Gun laws are for law abiding citizens. He was not one of them

    louise2

    Answer by louise2 at 8:58 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • I guess I'm not following the argument well. He did exploit the laws but when any effort is made to strengthen them all hell breaks loose. For example, he wasn't committed to a mental health facility so he could still buy a gun while suffering from mental illness. But if there was any drive to close that up, to say that anyone with a diagnosis of "insert type of mental illness here" can't buy a gun, people would be furious. There's no way that would ever pass.
    Mrs_Prissy

    Answer by Mrs_Prissy at 9:20 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • The problem is that Diagnoses of mental health issues is very subjective in reality. I could walk into say 10 psyciatrists tomorrow and probably have 10 different diagnoses.

    Add to that you would have to decide what dx limits ownership and what doesn't. Should everyone who is diagnoses with depression be limted no matter how minor it is? Should the fact that I was once dx with bipolar or another illness that is very well controlled with medication be a limiting diagnoses??

    That's the main problem is figuring out how to keep guns out of the severely mentally ill's hands without taking the rights away from a whole chunk of society at the same time.
    tntmom1027

    Answer by tntmom1027 at 9:26 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • The issue with him shooting three shots into someone's tire out of anger was never prosecuted. The issue with him "cleaning his gun" and it discharging into a neighbor's home that he had argued with a few days previous is highly suspicious.

    QuinnMae

    Answer by QuinnMae at 9:39 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • I wasn't talking about this specific person...more in general terms as any new laws would apply to everyone.
    tntmom1027

    Answer by tntmom1027 at 10:00 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • DC has the strictest gun laws
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 11:06 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • That's because criminals--shooting people is a crime, after all--don't give a damn about gun laws or any other laws, for that matter.
    Ballad

    Answer by Ballad at 11:11 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

  • if there is a history of mental instability AND previous violent behavior, especially with a gun, then that person should lose all rights to gun ownership. it really wouldnt be that hard to come up with a policy to prevent the mentally unstable (not necessarily the mentally ill) from getting guns. there is a difference btw man w/ bipolar and man w/ bipolar who thinks the world is out to get him and beast his wife & kids.

    will it stop every tragic event from happening, no. will it wrongly label some ppl, sure...just like innocent ppl go to jail for crimes all the time. but like Prissy said, some ppl out there are so fearful of losing their own gun rights they are willing to let mentally unstable ppl have them, and kill others, just to keep them.

    when was the last time a sane, stable individual with no previous violent or disturbing behavior shot up a public place? (not trying to make a point, i seriously want to know).
    okmanders

    Answer by okmanders at 11:12 PM on Sep. 17, 2013

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