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The Problem of Evil: 12 Excuses for God's Horrible Behavior

by August Berkshire


If God is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving, then why is there evil in the world.

For the sake of argument, let’s concede the harm that humans do as a misuse of our free will, for which God cannot be blamed (although a good case can be made that a loving god would have stopped Hitler).

That still leaves us with genetic birth defects, genetic and acquired diseases, and natural disasters.

Here are “The Top 12 Excuses” religious people give to attempt to explain away the horrible behavior of their god.
(1) Unknown greater good.

The first excuse is that God must commit or allow some evil to occur to accomplish an unknown greater good.

But doesn’t that limit God’s knowledge and power? Doesn’t that say that God couldn’t think of a better way to accomplish his goals other than torturing innocent people?
(2) Evil is really God’s love.

The second excuse is that what we perceive as “evil” is really an example of “God’s love.”

However, this is a definition of love we cannot comprehend because it is exactly the opposite of what we define love to be. Therefore we can’t know that “God’s love” is really love – we have to take someone’s unconvincing word for it.

If disease is an example of God’s love, shouldn’t we all try to get as sick as possible? Are doctors violating “God’s will” when they try to cure disease?
(3) Evil is needed to appreciate the good.

The third excuse is that without evil we wouldn’t appreciate what’s good.

But couldn’t a god just give us an appreciation of what’s good? Why should we have to be tortured to appreciate the good?

Disease and natural disasters seem like wanton cruelty on the part of God. Without disease and natural disasters we could still be left to struggle with good and evil in terms of moral dilemmas and human actions.
(4) Blame the ancestors and blame the victim.

The fourth excuse is that all evil that happens to us is our fault, either directly because of something we did, or indirectly because of our “ancestors” Adam and Eve.

This is known as “blaming the victim.” Typically, a victim of abuse believes that the more he or she is punished, the more he or she is loved.

But what did an innocent baby ever do to deserve a birth defect?

And what kind of justice is it that blames children for the sins of their long-dead ancestors?
(5) Evil is necessary for free will.

The fifth excuse is that without evil we would have no free will and would be “robots.”

But what do birth defects, disease, and natural disasters have to do with free will? Do sick people have more free will than healthy people?

God has supposedly created a heaven where there is no disease. Are the people in heaven robots?
(6) The devil did it.

The sixth excuse is that God isn’t really responsible for evil in the world, a devil is.

But who created this devil? And isn’t God supposed to be all-powerful? Can’t he stop this devil?
(7) Evil doesn’t last very long.

The seventh excuse is that any misery that occurs to us on Earth is brief compared to an eternity in a wonderful heaven.

So what? Is that any excuse to torture people?
(8) Evil is necessary for compassion.

The eighth excuse is that evil is necessary for us to learn compassion.
But if God wanted us to be compassionate, why didn’t he just make us that way? Why this sadistic scheme of torturing innocent babies to instill compassion in their parents?
(9) Suffering builds character.

The ninth excuse is that suffering builds character.

While building character may sometimes require effort – such as helping others, studying, and sportsmanship – none of these threatens our lives.

And what kind of character is a baby supposed to be developing, who is born with a birth defect so severe that she will only live a few days?
(10) God is testing our faith.

The tenth excuse is that evil is God’s way of testing our faith, like Job was tested in the Old Testament.

If this is true, what sense does it make to impose a “loyalty test” on an infant who dies from disease or natural disaster?
(11) The Creator is always justified.

The eleventh excuse is that God is morally justified in tormenting people because he created them.

But this confuses the power to torture someone with the right to torture someone.

Do the parents who create a child have a right to torture that child? Does might make right?
(12) Evil is necessary to prove God’s existence.

The twelfth excuse is that the existence of evil proves the existence of God, that without a God-given sense of good and bad, we would not be able to identify some things as evil in the first place.
But can’t an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving god come up with a better way to prove his existence than by torturing us? Why not just reveal himself?
Conclusion: God has run out of excuses. He is either incompetent, indifferent, or cruel. Another way to reconcile the facts

 
IhartU

Asked by IhartU at 11:30 AM on Sep. 30, 2013 in Religious Debate

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Answers (23)
  • This is one of my favorite essays. I truly believe that, if you have to make excuses for your god (especially this many), then he isn't a god you should be worshipping. Godwhores cannot see how ridiculous their excuses sound because they choose NOT to see it.
    witchqueen

    Answer by witchqueen at 7:09 PM on Oct. 1, 2013

  • "if you dont believe in an omni-God the reasons for evil will never make sense to you, just like your excuses for evil will never make sense to those who believe in an omni-God.

    there is evil b/c humans arent perfect...God or no god."

    This!!
    What sounds like "excuses" to you, may make perfect sense to others and vice versa. What is "logic" to you may not make sense to me. That doesn't justify demeaning what others believe simply because it doesn't make sense to you.
    Live and let live goes both ways. You want religious people to stop judging and criticizing you? Then you should do the same. And since you can't control what others do, only what you do, be the bigger person and don't sink to that level.
    momto2boys973

    Answer by momto2boys973 at 12:40 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • It is a waste of time.

    Yet you still answered for the points...
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 3:40 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • I'm going with non-existent
    butterflyblue19

    Answer by butterflyblue19 at 11:36 AM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • if you dont believe in an omni-God the reasons for evil will never make sense to you, just like your excuses for evil will never make sense to those who believe in an omni-God.

    there is evil b/c humans arent perfect...God or no god.
    okmanders

    Answer by okmanders at 12:36 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • If you were actually searching for answers instead of trying constantly to tear down what you do not like or care fore or believe in, I would answer you. As it is you just have a wall that you do not want to see past.
    It is a waste of time.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 1:19 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • I happen to agree with all of the points made here and frankly its just using the reasons given by the people who believe in this god. Why is this offensive?
    Perhaps bc it hits some nerves. And last i checked this isa debate board. Why do people want to cry "belittle" in a religious debate section??
    sahmamax2

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 8:37 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • Dard everything you're saying is just dancing around the very point this post is talking about.
    sahmamax2

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 1:42 PM on Oct. 1, 2013

  • "Why would a 'loving' being create such a thing...?"

    no idea...that question is one of the larger reasons i changed my views on God. it doesnt negate a higher power imo, but it does negate the omni3 & loving God for me.

    you have every right to speak your views, but you sound no different than Christian fundies. except where you use "logic" they use "Truth". you can be aggressive & blunt as is your right, but when the fundies do it everyone groans. do you really expect a different response? when you claim superior knowledge & call other's beliefs absurd, what do you expect to get in return? thanks & gratitude? no ones going to open their mind to your ideas when they're immediately put on the defensive.

    im not saying that to be mean, its just how this post came across to me & this post isnt even aimed at my beliefs.
    okmanders

    Answer by okmanders at 10:56 PM on Sep. 30, 2013

  • Not so much for the points but because I am bored and had a can of peanuts I needed to finish off.
    Dardenella

    Answer by Dardenella at 4:45 PM on Sep. 30, 2013