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Democrats hiding some important information?

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While Democrats on Capitol Hill dispute claims that individuals will lose their existing coverage under their reform plans, on other issues many Democrats privately acknowledge some people will indeed get whacked to pay for the new world of government-dominated health care.
Democrats have been brilliant in keeping knowledge about the pain and sacrifice of health reform from the very people who would bear the brunt of them. They’ve done so by convincing health-care industry groups not to run the kind of “Harry and Louise”-style ads that helped sink HillaryCare in 1993.
Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) says the pressure not to run ads has been “intense, bordering on extortion.” ....
Here are some of the groups on the menu if anything like the existing Senate or House health plans become law:

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Asked by grlygrlz2 at 6:52 AM on Jul. 25, 2009 in Politics & Current Events

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  • Young people. If the government mandates that everyone must have health insurance, healthy young people will have to buy policies that don’t reflect the low risk they have of getting sick. The House and Senate bills do let insurers set premiums based on age, but only up to a 2-to-1 ratio, versus a real-world ratio of 5 to 1. This means lower prices for older (and wealthier) folks, but high prices for the young. “They’ll have sticker shock,” says Rep. Paul Ryan, ranking Republican on the Budget Committee.


    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:53 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • Small Businesses. Employers who don’t provide coverage will have to pay a tax up to 8% of their payroll. Yet those who do provide coverage also have to pay the tax—if the law says their coverage is not “adequate.” Amazingly, even if a small business provides adequate insurance but its employees choose coverage in another plan offered through the government, the employer still must pay.


    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:54 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • Health Savings Account (HSA) holders. Eight million Americans, according to the Treasury Department, are covered by plans with low-cost premiums and high deductibles that are designed for large, unexpected medical costs. Money is also set aside in a savings account to cover the deductibles, and whatever isn’t spent in one year can build up tax-free. Nearly a third of new HSA users, according to Treasury figures, previously had no insurance or bought coverage on their own.
    These policies will be severely limited. The Senate plan says a policy deemed “acceptable” must have insurance (rather than the individual) pay out at least 76% of the benefits. The House plan is pegged at 70%.

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:56 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • That’s not the way these plans are set up to work. Ray Ramthun, who implemented the HSA regulations at the Treasury Department in 2003, says the regulations are crippling. “Companies tell me they could be forced to take products off the market,” he said in an interview.

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:56 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  •  Medicare Advantage users. Mr. Obama and Congressional Democrats want to cut back this program—care provided by private companies and subsidized by the government. Medicare Advantage grew by 15% last year; 10.5 million seniors, or 22% of all Medicare patients, are now enrolled.

    These plans tend to provide better coordinated and preventive care, and richer prescription drug coverage. But Democrats dislike Medicare Advantage’s private-sector nature, and they have some legitimate beefs with its unevenly generous reimbursement rates. This week Mr. Obama told the Washington Post that the program was “a prime example” of his efforts to cut Medicare spending, because he claims people “aren’t getting good value” from it.



    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:59 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • That’s not what others say. In January, Oregon’s Democratic Gov. Ted Kulongoski wrote the Obama administration expressing his concern about its efforts “to scale back Medicare Advantage” because the plans “play an important role in providing affordable health coverage.” He noted that 39% of Oregon’s Medicare patients had chosen Medicare Advantage, and that in “some of our Medicare Advantage plans . . . with proper chronic disease management for such conditions as heart disease, asthma and diabetes, hospitalization admission rates have declined.”

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 6:59 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • I just wanted to add, that with the proposed $600 BILLION proposed Medicare cuts, and an expected 40% INCREASE in the senior citizen population in the next FIVE years, there isn't going to BE a senior citizen program worth its weight.


    Answer by LoriKeet at 7:48 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • Young people need coverage. Life can change in a minute! Every responsible adult should have health insurance.

    My friend who is only in his 20 almost give up his insurance to save some money. He did not have time to do that. He was in bad ,bad car wreck......No his family is thankful he did not cancel his insurance.

    Health care should be everybody's issue .Something needs to be done.


    Answer by Anonymous at 8:08 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • They are hiding alot of shocking things in the bill if you watch the analysis in the video I posted.

    Answer by Carpy at 9:12 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

  • "Health care should be everybody's issue .Something needs to be done."

    But why this? How can you make cuts to Medicare when we have an aging population? Remember, the baby boomers are all entering retirement RIGHT NOW.

    Answer by mancosmomma at 9:41 AM on Jul. 25, 2009

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