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HR 3200 Promotes Euthanasia (Link to bill and pages)

So if HR 3200 allows for euthanasia for the terminally ill--what's to say it also includes for preemies and low-birth weight babies-- that require extensive NICU care--assuming they are otherwise healthy?!

See pages 425-434

Here are the excerpts I fond most "interesting:"

‘‘(IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association,and state hospice association."




Asked by LoriKeet at 10:22 PM on Aug. 11, 2009 in Politics & Current Events

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  • as a mother of two preemies that choice is always left of too the parents no matter how early they are. my daughter was born at 24 weeks with a ton of problems and we were aloud to say what we wanted done for her and what we did not. i also met a mother and father that had a daughter born at 21 weeks and because they wanted their daughter to live the doctors had to do every thing in their power to keep her alive. so it should always be the parents choice on what they want done to their child. and by the way both girls mine and her are both healthy three year olds. so you can take that and shove it obama!!

    Answer by mrssundin at 11:31 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • But of course, the bill would NEVER say that it promotes restriction of lifesaving measures, or does it?!?!

    "The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions.

    Such indicated levels of treatment may include indications respecting, among other items—16 ‘‘(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the 17 patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac 18 or pulmonary problems;19 ‘‘(ii) the individual’s desire regarding transfer20 to a hospital or remaining at the current care set21 Ting;22 ‘‘(iii) the use of antibiotics; and 23 ‘‘(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.’’.


    Answer by LoriKeet at 10:26 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • And because it bears repeating, again, and again, and are the 5 Key Freedoms you will LOSE under ObamaCare!!!

    1. Freedom to choose what's in your plan

    2. Freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs

    3. Freedom to choose high-deductible coverage

    4. Freedom to keep your existing plan

    5. Freedom to choose your doctors


    Answer by LoriKeet at 10:30 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • Your 5 freedoms are BS.

    Answer by Anonymous at 10:49 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • Thank you for this posting.
    While others choose to not stand and pay close attention when these horrible things are actually going to happen if they do not~~~I just feel that this is something that really needs everyone's attention.
    While in nursing I had witnessed many things being done behind closed doors and this will just make it more of a happening. Somehow not so bad because it is written and signed.
    I stopped all care with one lady that the doctors had told her family that she had been so brain damaged that she would soon die after refusing her food and drink. That was not the case. It took her 28 days to pass away and by the 2nd day I could no longer continue to watch and refuse her.
    If this passes ~~~ all stops will be pulled and we will begin seeing America kill its own and call it medical care. NECCESSITY.
    This is totally not OK and people better start speaking up!
    The man is sick and evil; as is his administr

    Answer by bloodbought at 10:52 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • Bloodbought - this is already being done now. In the Nicu and del room their is defined criteria that LEGALLY allows no treatment or cessation of treatment.

    yes, we allow those born at less than 22 weeks and with breathing difficulties pass in del rooms surrounded by family members. yes, we allow infants born with certain, "incompatiable with long term life" pass without intervention. We withdraw support from pts and let them pass in their parents' arms. hard as it may be to accept, sometimes living is not in the best interest of the pt.
    First do no harm. It's called compassionate care.

    Answer by Sisteract at 11:03 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • *there*

    Answer by Sisteract at 11:03 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • In our facility if 1 could not perform the task( for whatever reason), one would be reassigned to another patient care assignment.

    Answer by Sisteract at 11:06 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • YOU are a dumbass. It says that you are allowed to CHOOSE TO DIE. DUH, most countries observe that. The ones that don't cling to the bible like it is the truth.

    Answer by Anonymous at 11:14 PM on Aug. 11, 2009

  • Your quote does not back up your claim. You don't know what you are talking about. In the first place, your first quote is referencing some unseen previous points. The second quote is describing certain levels of treatment "indicated." That is how Drs treat their patients right now.

    Answer by stacymomof2 at 11:24 PM on Aug. 11, 2009