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Want to read some key points of the HR 3200 Obamacare Bill?

* Page 22: Mandates audits of all employers that self-insure!
* Page 29: Admission: your health care will be rationed!
* Page 30: A government committee will decide what treatments and benefits you get (and, unlike an insurer, there will be no appeals process)
* Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
* Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.
* Page 58: Every person will be issued a National ID Healthcard.
* Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.
* Page 65: Taxpayers will subsidize all union retiree and community organizer health plans (read: SEIU, UAW and ACORN)
* Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange.



Asked by Anonymous at 9:45 AM on Aug. 29, 2009 in Politics & Current Events

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Answers (9)
  • Exactly's the VAGUENESS in the wording and double entondres that are know a 1000 page documents mostly consisting of "what IS the definition of "IS"?! LOL

    Answer by LoriKeet at 12:29 PM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • * Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (i.e., total government control of private plans)
    * Page 91: Government mandates linguistic infrastructure for services; translation: illegal aliens
    * Page 95: The Government will pay ACORN and Americorps to sign up individuals for Government-run Health Care plan.
    * Page 102: Those eligible for Medicaid will be automatically enrolled: you have no choice in the matter.
    * Page 124: No company can sue the government for price-fixing. No "judicial review" is permitted against the government monopoly. Put simply, private insurers will be crushed.
    * Page 127: The AMA sold doctors out: the government will set wages.
    * Page 145: An employer MUST auto-enroll employees into the government-run public plan. No alternatives.
    * Page 126: Employers MUST pay healthcare bills for part-time employees AND their families.

    Answer by Anonymous at 9:46 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • * Page 149: Any employer with a payroll of $400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays an 8% tax on payroll
    * Page 150: Any employer with a payroll of $250K-400K or more, who does not offer the public option, pays a 2 to 6% tax on payroll
    * Page 167: Any individual who doesnt' have acceptable healthcare (according to the government) will be taxed 2.5% of income.
    * Page 170: Any NON-RESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay for them).
    * Page 195: Officers and employees of Government Healthcare Bureaucracy will have access to ALL American financial and personal records.
    * Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that.
    * Page 239: Bill will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors and the poor most affected."
    * Page 241: Doctors: no matter what speciality you have, you'll all be paid the same (thanks, AMA!)

    Answer by Anonymous at 9:46 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • * Page 265: Government mandates and controls productivity for private healthcare industries.
    * Page 268: Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
    * Page 272: Cancer patients: welcome to the wonderful world of rationing!
    * Page 280: Hospitals will be penalized for what the government deems preventable re-admissions.
    * Page 298: Doctors: if you treat a patient during an initial admission that results in a readmission, you will be penalized by the government.
    * Page 317: Doctors: you are now prohibited for owning and investing in healthcare companies!
    * Page 318: Prohibition on hospital expansion. Hospitals cannot expand without government approval.
    * Page 321: Hospital expansion hinges on "community" input: in other words, yet another payoff for ACORN.
    * Page 335: Government mandates establishment of outcome-based measures: i.e., rationing.

    Answer by Anonymous at 9:47 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • * Page 341: Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans, HMOs, etc.
    * Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals.
    * Page 379: More bureaucracy: Telehealth Advisory Committee (healthcare by phone).
    * Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia?
    * Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.
    * Page 425: Goverment provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death.
    * Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends.
    * Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the GOVERNMENT.

    Answer by Anonymous at 9:47 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • * Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life.
    * Page 469: Community-based Home Medical Services: more payoffs for ACORN.
    * Page 472: Payments to Community-based organizations: more payoffs for ACORN.
    * Page 489: Government will cover marriage and family therapy. Government intervenes in your marriage!
    * Page 494: Government will cover mental health services: defining, creating and rationing those services.

    Answer by Anonymous at 9:47 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • And there is just one of the problems of this bill; the language is so vague and ambiguous. I guarantee that someone will post an alternate interpretation to every one of the points above to prove why this is for our own good. It is not within the "government's" power to decide what is for our own good . I don't think there is any way this bill is good for us in any way, or form, or rewrite, or next year/month/decade - ever. Now we also have to be watchful of the bill to allow the government to take control of this, the internet, in case of an emergency. The definition of an emergency is left to the discretion of a government official. Say bye-bye 1st Amendment rights.


    Answer by jesse123456 at 10:22 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • Me, playing Pelosi: None of these things are in the bill. Our wonderful president wouldn't EVER lie to us! These are just more SMEAR tactics by the republicans.

    Wait. You mean it's in print?

    I meant to say, "While it sounds like these words may convey certain meanings, we want them to mean something else. Republicans should remember that these words are open for interpretation."

    Answer by christaberk at 10:23 AM on Aug. 29, 2009

  • christaberk: You speak better than Pelosi. You have to choose words that have definite double meanings.

    Answer by jesse123456 at 11:22 AM on Aug. 29, 2009