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Does God make the rules or not?

What higher power could compel God to go through a bloody ritual just to allow the changing of a rule that God made in the first place?

We are capable of forgiving others without killing our own sons. Why should we think that we are better able to forgive than God? Whether or not Jesus was supposed to be the son of God, if it was God’s will that Jesus be the ultimate sacrifice so mortals could gain God’s forgiveness, then the entire ritual of sacrifice becomes superfluous. Forgiveness occurs when the decision to forgive is made. If God had a plan to forgive mortals, then it was already done. Why is there the need to go through with the bloody ritual?

 
IhartU

Asked by IhartU at 10:22 AM on Sep. 6, 2009 in Religion & Beliefs

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  • Another thought I just had on this.... If the trinity is all just God in different forms, then Jesus really wasn't a real person, was he? If Jesus is just God in human form, then wasn't the crucifixion just all a show to gain followers? It's not like you can feel bad for someone who is omnipotent and KNEW what was going to happen, planned it out, and most likely doesn't feel pain either....and if he DID feel pain, it would be because he himself chose to.
    metalcowgirl34

    Answer by metalcowgirl34 at 10:28 AM on Sep. 7, 2009

  • idk..good point. (maybe i'll ask him when i see him.)
    thehairnazi

    Answer by thehairnazi at 10:27 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • That's an awesome point! Another example: I see Christians on here saying all the time that "God's hands are tied" when it comes to his non-believing children going to hell. He's sad about it, but he can't do anything about it. WHY? Isn't he omnipotent? Isn't HE the ruler of everything? WHO is "tying his hands" and making him allow his children to go to hell??? If he's sad about it, why can't he just stop it?
    metalcowgirl34

    Answer by metalcowgirl34 at 10:33 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • GOD- does make the rules,BUT he gives us free will to follow them or not follow them. That is why there is so much bad in the world because man/women are natural sinners,disobey GOD
    there are more than the ten commandments to follow in the bible- example:
    you must all be quick to listen,slow to speak & slow to get angry.
    James 1:19
    yes i believe in the trinity GOD his son Jesus & the Holy spirt all one, but separate. without Jesus we cannot get into heaven he is the key. GOD know all see all & we will never understand his ways we just have to trust him & have faith.
    maiahlynn

    Answer by maiahlynn at 10:37 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • maiahlynn, : If people are natural sinners, then sin must have been created before man ever was- therefore, your God must have created evil. If God knows everything, then he would know ahead of time who is going to sin and who is going to worship him and etc.- therefore, the free will you think you have is simply you doing what your God already knows you are going to do- your choices are not real choices because they do not change your God's plan for you.


    Saying you have to kill someone in order to forgive people for something they were born with makes no sense. Your God must have ALREADY known about the sin and the need he would have to forgive it, so why even bother with the bloodshed of his son? Why not simply forgive it or stop it from ever existing in the first place? 

    IhartU

    Answer by IhartU at 10:50 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • It's like a big mind game....like the mouse in the hole teasing the cat outside because he knows how curious he is.
    This idea of God and how he "works" shows me he is a trickster and likes mind games.....Oh wait, thats the best way to gain power and control over people.
    sahmamax2

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 10:51 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • yes thats correct the bible says GOD made Good & bad. And yes of course he knew ahead who would be in heaven & who wouldn't- he knows all. Yet still we control our future because it all we have to do is believe in GOD Jesus & the holy spirt ( Jesus being the key) & we get into heaven GOD forgive us for all our sins. GOD isnot a trickster, but the Devil wants you to believe that.
    We can never fully understand GOD ways we must just trust him & have faith.
    ask GOD to reveal himself to you and he will through another person, or a situation, a dream
    he is a loving GOD, but just like your parents he will punish his children..
    judgement day isn't that far away.
    maiahlynn

    Answer by maiahlynn at 11:03 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • maiahlynn,

    I would like some instances of this 'love' you speak of God showing us. All I see is abuse disguised as love...

    IMO, if you need and want something so badly, your own mind will create it for you and you mistake and confuse that for reality. You needed a god for whatever reason, and so you created him...
    IhartU

    Answer by IhartU at 11:08 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • I'm sorry but that is such a bunch of double standard, crapola! ^^
    sahmamax2

    Answer by sahmamax2 at 11:08 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

  • The payment for sin is death, but the gift that God freely gives is everlasting life found in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

    And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. (Hebrews 9:22)

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:7-9)
    ThrivingMom

    Answer by ThrivingMom at 11:16 AM on Sep. 6, 2009

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