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Does this make sense?

Fines proposed for going without health insurance
Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday...

...The Baucus plan would require insurers to take all applicants, regardless of age or health. But smokers could be charged higher premiums. And 60-year-olds could be charged five times as much for a policy as 20-year-olds...

...The fines pose a dilemma for Obama. As a candidate, the president campaigned hard against making health insurance a requirement, and fining people for not getting it.

"Punishing families who can't afford health care to begin with just doesn't make sense," he said during his party's primaries. At the time, he proposed mandatory insurance only for children...

If we can't afford health insurance, how the hell do they expect us to be able to pay the fine?

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Asked by Anonymous at 7:12 PM on Sep. 8, 2009 in Politics & Current Events

Answers (13)
  • yes a lot of republicans come on here saying that the whole health insurance by government is bad and what not but they dont fully get why, maybe they dont read up on it on a non biased source

    liberals/democrats want the healthcare but want more added to it so it will cover more people and more illnesses

    republicans/conservatives dont want the healthcare because it will make other private businesses have to compete with prices they ultimately cant and will go out of business. so the only reasons the rep. in the senate and such dont want it is because it will cause private companies to fall back and they wont be competetors anymore, thus making it un-corporate friendly.

    Obama wants the healthcare to compete with the companies so they will be forced to lower their cost. You can look it up in his speeches and you can look up the oppositions for republicans as well....go to a non-biased source please

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:19 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • Yet another BIG problem with gov't-run health care / health insurance.

    People ARE aware - are they not? - that what has been proposed is NOT like Canadian & UK Socialist healthcare, right? ... Yes, it would be dispensed by the gov't, but we would pay monthly premiums in ADDITION to the raised taxes.

    So, with such a windfall of monthly premiums to collect from EVERY citizen and business, OF COURSE the gov't would FORCE you to buy insurance. That's just a no-brainer.

    Answer by waldorfmom at 7:19 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • It doesn't make sense. I believe the state of Mass. did this, where if you didn't have health insurance you had to pay a fine, almost like an uninsured motorist fee at the DMV. I work in the insurance industry and I remember a few years back, and I believe it was in Mass but don't quote me, people were in a rage calling us saying they had to get insurance or else they'd be paying a fine to their state. And its almost like the LEP (late enrollment penalty) for the medicare programs. If you delay part B of medicare without other creditable coverage carrying you while you're working you pay a 10% per year penalty that stays with you for the rest of your life when you do get part b. Same for medicare part D, you pay 1% penalty per month that you didn't carry creditable coverage or a medicare part d plan after you had become eligible. It hurts people more than it brings in money to the government.

    Answer by amyrw at 7:21 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • Since when is Yahoo news which repeats AP wire stories a biased source??

    And neither of you addressed the question which is how are people who can't afford the insurance going to afford to pay these fines??

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:21 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • I don't think this idea is going to go very far. It flies in the face of what the proposal should accomplish.

    Answer by PsWifey at 7:33 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • OP, anything that doesn't support Obama 100% is a biased source. Liberals also prefer to side-step "How much will this cost me?" questions.

    Answer by mancosmomma at 7:33 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • I dont know how they are going to pay the you know how your going to wipe your ass before you do it, no you just do it

    if there is a nation wide healthcare plan like people were so gung ho about before it was reality they should have known that there would be fines attatched, the state doesnt just pop that money out their ass...they pop it out of yours and ours

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:35 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • The details of the bill make NO sense when you assume that the goal is to get health care to more people:
    1) the question you pose
    2) the four year delay before anything but the collecting of higher taxes & fees gets going. Postponing health care for more people does NOT help them get health care ... right?
    3) the clauses about forbidding doctors / hospitals from buying equipment or expanding facilities unless they first get gov't permission. ... This does not help MORE patients get treatment !

    Ah ! ... but if you look at it as a vast new system - 53 gov't agencies are involved - for gov't control, for collecting money into the gov't agencies, and for rewarding groups which support the gov't ... then it ALL becomes transparent and makes complete sense !

    Let's just make Medicare available to those 10 million who have no insurance. Change the Medicare requirements and use a system that's already in place !

    Answer by waldorfmom at 7:36 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • no i wasnt saying you had a biased source im saying many people didnt know that info because they do go to biased not liberal either FYI

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:37 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

  • Since when is Yahoo news which repeats AP wire stories a biased source??

    Ap is a biased source. And its an awful idea.

    Answer by Carpy at 7:38 PM on Sep. 8, 2009

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