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What exactly is the black stone of Ka'bah? Just curious NOT BASHING!

I've heard many things regarding what it is and where it came from and was wondering what the official belief surrounding it is because I'm confused.

Muslims say that the Stone was found by Abraham (Ibrahim) and his son Ishmael (Ismail) when they were searching for stones with which to build the Kaaba. They recognized its worth and made it one of the building's cornerstones.

Secular historians point to the history of stone worship, and especially meteorite worship, in pre-Islamic Arabia, and say that it is likely that the Stone is a meteorite. There is no way to test this hypothesis without removing and examining the Stone, which would not be permitted by its guardians though.


Is this stone mentioned in the Bible or the Qu'ran? Do you disregard the black stone worship of pagan pre-Islamic times or do you accept it and differentiate between that practice and the one done at Mecca?

 
IhartU

Asked by IhartU at 9:34 AM on Oct. 13, 2009 in Religion & Beliefs

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  • Until by the time of Muhammad Salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam, the faith was corrupted and idol worship the norm , and the idols had been put in the kabah. The pilgrimage and its rituals were still being performed by some though, even though the faith was corrupted.

    Hence the new message in order to reform and clense back to the monotheism.
    zanzeebeel

    Answer by zanzeebeel at 1:14 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • The subject of the black stone is one of those things that comes up a lot , used by those who want to persuade people that Islam contains some sort of left over paganism. In truth it gets far more coverage than it really deserves. To the muslim it means no more than any of the other rituals we perform at the kaba, infact we tend to fear thinking anything of it, because to raise anything above its station would be a sin , the hadith of umar is often quoted,

    "Indeed I know that you are but a stone you neither benefit nor harm, and if it was not that I saw the Messenger of Allaah SallAllahu 'alayhi wasallam kiss you I would not have kissed you."

    The stone is bulit into one of the corners of the kaba, and it was customary to kiss it, it is said whoever kisses with a pure heart, on monotheistic belief, it will be witnessed for him on the day of judgement. To sort the truth is harder for the fact theres a lot of nonsense

    zanzeebeel

    Answer by zanzeebeel at 11:35 AM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • Theres a lot written about the stone, the toing and froing of those who are bashing or defending Islam has made sure of that.

    As muslims we are very cautious of our sources, and will only take from the knowledge that was given us by the Quran and the sunnah of the prophet. ( salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam. ). There are things written from the knowledge of other sources but we do not take those automatically as fact, You will see a lot written about the kaba , even by muslims which in my opinion i would be cautious about accepting blindly. Copying without checking is unfortunaelty prevelent today , so just because someone writes with confidence doesnt mean it should be taken unquestiongly.
    I 've read varied accounts and histories. I'll see if i can pull out for you where it is mentioned in reliable sources .Inshallah.
    zanzeebeel

    Answer by zanzeebeel at 11:48 AM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • There is so much information and it's mixed with truth and myth and it's hard to figure out how to separate it all...

    I guess I've always seen a lot of emphesis placed it when non-Islamic people discuss the Muslim faith. Seems like it's either discussed out of interest or because like you said, to try and prove the faith wrong somehow.
    IhartU

    Answer by IhartU at 11:52 AM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • I would like to add to what my sister zanzeebeel said. the Ka'aba has always been there, there are some of the opinion that is was built during the time of Adam and then rebuilt in the time of Abraham. it is said that this stone, was sent from Heaven. ( and hence the meteor theory, because it is true, it is unlike other stones on earth.
    like my sister said. the stone does not have any divinity about it. when Muslims are performing their tawaaf ( circling the Ka'aba) it serves as a starting point. to mark the seven rounds. people who are close get to kiss it ( ref, Omar's hadith in Z's post) and those who are far from it just point to it.
    the Ka'ba did have its share of idols being placed around it, or inside it , during pagan and idol worshiping days. but once Islam came into Mecca, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him destroyed all the idols and all the statues. if the stone had any "idol" resemlence it would ...cont....
    proud2bmom3

    Answer by proud2bmom3 at 12:01 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • ...cont.... have been removed.

    according to history. the stone was stolen more than once. it was crushed into pieces that were sold.. what we see now in Mecca is actually a bunch of pieces welded bonded together, it is not ONE whole stone anymore.

    Thank you for asking. and more importantly, for NOT bashing. it gets tiresome on the cafe sometimes especially in the Q&A section with the constant "anonymous' bashing of our faith.

    Peace to all.
    proud2bmom3

    Answer by proud2bmom3 at 12:04 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • I wanted to add another significance of the Kabbah to the Muslims. Allah has commanded us to face the direction of the kabbah when praying. We do not pray to the Kabbah. We do not worship it nor do we hold it to have any divinity whatsoever. We simply use it as God icommanded to be the place in which we face when we pray.

    here are some quotes regarding this...
    Al-Baqarah - 2:142
    The fools (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews) among the people will say, "What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah [prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)] to which they were used to face in prayer." Say, (O Muhammad ) "To Allâh belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to a Straight Way." (Al-Baqarah 2:142)
    Aasiyah

    Answer by Aasiyah at 12:42 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • Thus We have made you [true Muslims - real believers of Islâmic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah (legal ways)], a Wasat (just) (and the best) nation, that you be witnesses over mankind and the Messenger (Muhammad) be a witness over you. And We made the Qiblah (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger (Muhammad) from those who would turn on their heels (i.e. disobey the Messenger). Indeed it was great (heavy) except for those whom Allâh guided. And Allâh would never make your faith (prayers) to be lost (i.e. your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, Allâh is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards mankind. (Al-Baqarah 2:143)
    Aasiyah

    Answer by Aasiyah at 12:42 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad's) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Harâm (at Makkah). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scriptures (i.e. Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Ka'bah at Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. And Allâh is not unaware of what they do. (Al-Baqarah 2:144)
    Aasiyah

    Answer by Aasiyah at 12:43 PM on Oct. 13, 2009

  • And from wheresoever you start forth (for prayers), turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makkah), that is indeed the truth from your Lord. And Allâh is not unaware of what you do. (Al-Baqarah 2:149)
    Aasiyah

    Answer by Aasiyah at 12:43 PM on Oct. 13, 2009