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Think if this healthcare reform bill passes it could be altered or overturned later on?

Think again!...it could be added to of course but what is already there canot be changed..

Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) pointed out some rather astounding language in the Senate health care bill during floor remarks tonight. First, he noted that there are a number of changes to Senate rules in the bill--and it's supposed to take a 2/3 vote to change the rules. And then he pointed out that the Reid bill declares on page 1020 that the Independent Medicare Advisory Board cannot be repealed by future Congresses:

 
tnmomofive

Asked by tnmomofive at 11:32 AM on Dec. 22, 2009 in Politics & Current Events

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  • What is most disturbing about that footage from the senate floor is that while the guy presiding looks VERY uncomfortable, he won't give an inch. At the end, DeMint reads to him word for word, directly from the bill, a line saying it's a rule change, and the guy STILL won't admit it's a rule change. That the Dems are so dedicated to getting their way by any means necessary, even if it means breaking the rules of the Senate and lying about it, should scare EVERYONE, regardless of who you voted for.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 2:33 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • there's one provision that i found particularly troubling and it's under section c, titled "limitations on changes to this subsection."

    and i quote -- "it shall not be in order in the senate or the house of representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection."

    this is not legislation. it's not law. this is a rule change. it's a pretty big deal. we will be passing a new law and at the same time creating a senate rule that makes it out of order to amend or even repeal the law.
    tnmomofive

    Answer by tnmomofive at 11:33 AM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • tnmomofive

    Answer by tnmomofive at 11:34 AM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • tnmomofive

    Answer by tnmomofive at 11:56 AM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • The supreme court will hear challenges on this. It can be declared an unconstitutional bill, and very likely will be. Otherwise the only recourse may be revelution.
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 11:57 AM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • Thank you for bringing this to our attention !

    Isn't it amazing the way the media are focussing solely on whether the costs will be "budget neutral", whether abortion is funded by tax dollars, and how many more people will get coverage.

    (That last one is hilarious. When you use census figures to sort out the "47 million uninsured" into groups of: those who are merely between jobs and uninsured for a couple of months;
    those who are young & healthy who don't WANT to spend money on insurance;
    those who are illegal aliens;
    and those who legitimately need help getting insured because they don't qualify for insurance from their particular state's companies or because they cannot afford to pay the monthly premiums ... when you sort those out, it turns out that there are only 11 - 13 million legitimately uninsured.

    And they proudly announce that "only" 4% of people will not be covered by this plan. That's 12.2 million !
    waldorfmom

    Answer by waldorfmom at 12:18 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • Otherwise the only recourse may be revelution.


     


    You can't even spell revolution and you think you are going to be part of a successful one? lol  You are seriously talking revolution over healthcare reform?   Get a life.

    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 1:09 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • I just had to LOL @ anon 12:09. Funny!
    NightPhoenix

    Answer by NightPhoenix at 1:35 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • Soo the only input some have is little insults? Thats it?
    tnmomofive

    Answer by tnmomofive at 1:36 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

  • You can't even spell revolution and you think you are going to be part of a successful one? lol You are seriously talking revolution over healthcare reform? Get a life.

    There is more to life than spelling every word correctly! And yeah, we (at least some of us) are seriously talking revolution over healthcare, cap & tax, the trillions that are being borrowed in our name that we don't want to borrow, the lack of leadership, the corruption that is so blatant from our Congressmen and women, just to get started. Want to join up?
    29again

    Answer by 29again at 1:50 PM on Dec. 22, 2009

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