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has anyone ever heard of the doctrine of TULIP

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Anonymous

Asked by Anonymous at 8:58 PM on Dec. 31, 2009 in Religion & Beliefs

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  • nope
    TMJ121099

    Answer by TMJ121099 at 9:04 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Me either. Tell us about it?
    Lexylex

    Answer by Lexylex at 10:48 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • The Five Points of Calvinism are easily remembered by the acrostic TULIP
    Total Depravity (Total Inability)
    Unconditional Election
    Limited Atonement (Particular Redemption)
    Irresistible Grace
    Perseverance of the Saints
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 10:57 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Yep, it's 5 points of the Calvinist view of predestination

    Total depravity - The claim that our free will has been injured by original sin to the point that, unless God gives us special grace, we cannot free ourselves from sin and choose to serve God in love. We might choose to serve him out of fear, but not out of unselfish love

    Unconditional election - God does not base his choice (election) of certain individuals on anything other than his own good will. God chooses whomever he pleases and passes over the rest. The ones God chooses will desire to come to him, will accept his offer of salvation, and will do so precisely because he has chosen them.

    Limited atonement, - Christ's atonement is limited. Christ died only for the elect.

    Irresistible grace - when God gives a person the grace that enables him to come to salvation, the person always responds and never rejects this grace.
    eringobrough

    Answer by eringobrough at 11:27 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Can you explain what each one means please. I have never heard of TULIP and I do like learning new things. Thanks in advance.
    pnwmom

    Answer by pnwmom at 11:29 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Perseverance of the saints - if a person enters a state of grace he never will leave it but will persevere to the end of life.


    Basically it's the idea that God does a double predestination - He not only predestins people to heaven, He also predestins them to hell. Personally, I have a lot of theological problems with the TULIP doctrine. But it's one of two main schools of thought about predestination in Protestanism (the other one being Arminianism). From my understanding Calvinism is common in Presbyterian, Reformed, and a few Baptist churches. Arminianism is common in Methodist, Pentecostal, and most Baptist churches. (In Catholic circles, the to main groups are Thomists who emphasize the role of grace and Molinists emphasize free will.)
    eringobrough

    Answer by eringobrough at 11:32 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Can you explain what each one means please. I have never heard of TULIP and I do like learning new things. Thanks in advance.

    Eringobrough did.(thanks) I don't know much about this, that is why I was asking.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 11:43 PM on Dec. 31, 2009

  • Here is a scripture that should dismiss John Calvin's TULIP doctrine.


     1 Timothy 4:10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.


    There are many Reformed denominations who believe in Calvin's theory. Calvinist beliefs are that God made people who don't believe in Jesus to not be able to believe in Jesus; therefore, these people were created to go to hell. Calvinism is a false doctrine. 1 Timothy 4:10 plainly says that the Savior is for "all men".


    Here is a journal with more information on this http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/1525350/No_Calvinism


     


     

    m2KnL

    Answer by m2KnL at 8:24 PM on Jan. 1, 2010

  • The Five Points of Calvinism, aka TULIP, are specifically found in the bible. People don't like it because it doesn't make them "feel good".
    spiritofstupor

    Answer by spiritofstupor at 7:25 AM on Jan. 3, 2010

  • Here's the scriptural references in context:

    Total Depravity:
    Sin has affected all parts of man. The heart, emotions, will, mind, and body are all affected by sin. We are completely sinful. We are not as sinful as we could be, but we are completely affected by sin.
    The doctrine of Total Depravity is derived from scriptures that reveal human character: Man’s heart is evil (Mark 7:21-23) and sick (Jer. 17:9). Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20). He does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12). He cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14). He is at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). And, is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3). The Calvinist asks the question, "In light of the scriptures that declare man’s true nature as being utterly lost and incapable, how is it possible for anyone to choose or desire God?" The answer is, "He cannot. Therefore God must predestine."
    spiritofstupor

    Answer by spiritofstupor at 7:29 AM on Jan. 3, 2010

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