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Why would a loving, omnipotent, benevolent god cause people to believe falsehoods so that he can condemn them ?

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12


11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 
IhartU

Asked by IhartU at 12:02 PM on Mar. 21, 2010 in Religion & Beliefs

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  • If they have denied God, then why the need for the added delusions? Are they not fully invested in the 'lie' already?
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    Oh, this is not about those who have "fully" denied God. It's for those who claim to believe His word, but then go out and find teachers that tell them what they want to hear (scrachin' those itchin' ears). By the time He sends them the delusion, the Holy Spirit has already departed. When God "sends" the delusion, He has actually given the person over to Satan's wiles. Satan provides the strong delusion, God only allows it.
    Lexylex

    Answer by Lexylex at 3:17 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • It's called freewill. We are free to believe in HIM or not.
    robin2708

    Answer by robin2708 at 12:08 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • Yahweh seeks those who love him and his truth. The ones who pretend to do so will fall for the delusion. You can recognize these people as hypocrites, and people who only treat their belief and faith in him as a hobby, not a life long journey. The ones that feel they are safe in doing whatever they want as long as they believe there is a G-d, and that his son saved them from having to do any work, either on themselves or their relationship with him. Yahweh bless.

    I apologize if anyone finds this offensive, not meant to.
    Daphna28

    Answer by Daphna28 at 12:15 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • One of my biggest questions...
    charlotsomtimes

    Answer by charlotsomtimes at 12:41 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • think of St Augustine (if you dont know about him please wiki him) he lead a life a sin. he was a really wild man. that can exist in christianity because of the forgiveness aspect. Augustine said that god love the sinner while hating the sin. (other famous quote is - god make me chaste ... but not yet!) i think there are tests and temptations to see really how good of people we are. the idea isnt to lead a perfect sin-less life. it is just to realize when you fucked up, admit you did something wrong. and make up for it. most major religions align with that concept. redemption is possible. it is really necessary for everyone because we arent perfect. maybe we are geared with ouf flaws because they are necessary to serve our individual purpose on this earth. remember that without evil. we wouldnt really understand "good." one cannot exist without the other.  (btw.  my son's name is Augustine.)  

    AmaliaD

    Answer by AmaliaD at 12:47 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • supposed to say "god loveS..."
    AmaliaD

    Answer by AmaliaD at 12:48 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • AmaliaD... well that is fascinating and all, but it didn't really answer my question! There are those who talk about free will all the time and yet here is an example of God manupulating people to believe a falsehood.
    IhartU

    Answer by IhartU at 1:20 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • You have to understand the history of the people of that time and what was going on, their culture and so on. You need to take into context all the other scriptures around it as well.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 2:34 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • I just read the whole chapter and what it sounds like is they were already exposed to the truth, but refused it, so God was merely giving them the desires of their hearts. From what I understand God did not just go and give people delusions so they were damned. They were already choosing to believe in those delusions and so God just said so be it. If that is what they want so be it.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 2:43 PM on Mar. 21, 2010

  • Read within context for your answer:


    9The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


     


     He gives them over fully to the lie because they love untruths want to believe lies anyway. (Read also 2 Timothy 4:3 and 4)

    Lexylex

    Answer by Lexylex at 2:50 PM on Mar. 21, 2010