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More infomation about the health care bill...

Some facts, taken right from the bill!

~Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure!!
~Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill: THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.
~Page 29 lines 4-16 of HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
~Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you. You have no choice!
~Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise.
~Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & a 'National ID Health card' will be issued! (Papers please!)
~Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. (Time for more cash and carry)
~Page 65 Sec 164: Is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community organizations: (ACORN).


Asked by RutterMama at 3:20 PM on Mar. 24, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • ACORN isn't going out of business...the country's largest community organization group, is merely reorganizing their organization!!! LOL

    You know, like when they changed their official name from ACORN to COI--Community Organizations International--you might know then as COI or their aptly named nickname "Conflict of Interest!" LOL

    When businesses are accused of many negative things, that's what they do--change their name, thinking no one is paying attention!

    Props to QuinnMae!! :o)

    Answer by LoriKeet at 6:08 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • ~Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.'
    ~Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans -- The Govt will ration your health care!
    ~Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (Translation: illegal aliens.)
    ~Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups (i.e. ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
    ~Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!) ~Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. (No choice.)
    ~Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly.
    ~Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.

    Answer by RutterMama at 3:21 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • ~Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! (See the last comment in parenthesis.)
    ~Page 150 Lines 9-13: A business with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.
    ~Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
    ~Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Like always)
    ~Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. (I guess so they can 'deduct' their fees)
    ~Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) ( a 'fee' instead)

    Answer by RutterMama at 3:21 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • ~Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.)
    ~Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! (Just TRY to tell me that's not Socialism!)
    ~Page 253 Line 10-18: The Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.)
    ~Page 265 Sec 1131: The Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries.
    ~Page 268 Sec 1141: The federal Govt regulates the rental and purchase of power driven scooters and wheelchairs

    NOW.. this is facts right from the bill... LOOK IT UP if you care to argue that this is a GOOD thing??? It is socialism!

    Answer by RutterMama at 3:23 PM on Mar. 24, 2010


    Answer by Anonymous at 3:24 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • Wow... you interpreted all that by yourself, or did somebody do that for you? Here you go, little one, read this and rest assured the big bad government will not turn you into a socialist, sigh...

    Answer by Anouck at 3:29 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • By the way, these "facts" you speak of were NOT taken right from the bill (I'm sorry, you sounded very excited about that one, but no cigar). They were in fact misleading interpretations, and most of the time straight up LIES made up by ohhhhh.....wait for it.... THE RIGHT WINGERS!!!! CHING CHING!

    Are you really surprised by that outcome?

    Answer by Anouck at 3:32 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • Anouck, no matter HOW MUCH they TRY, they will NEVER turn me into a socialist. I was born FREE, and I will die FREE.

    This bill is a direct government takeover of our healthcare system. I have every faith that this unconstitutional piece of crap will be taken down, before it can do too much damage to our people.

    Answer by 29again at 3:38 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • 29again, For all of our sake.... I hope you are RIGHT!

    Answer by RutterMama at 4:03 PM on Mar. 24, 2010

  • I don't know HOW, and I don't know WHO, but I really think that it will be taken care of.

    Answer by 29again at 4:10 PM on Mar. 24, 2010