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To people who are happy with their current medical coverage/care. What do you think of turning the system non-profit and providing incentives for good care within a non-profit model?

Are you really happy, or are you just afraid that changing it will just make an already poor system, worse?

I think our medical system is in dire need of overhaul. We hemorrhage money into the medical system and yet we put out the poorest results in the industrialized world.

It's disgusting to think about all the people that have died because of $, inept system, non-evidenced based care due to insurance policies/issues, and poor oversight.

In a non-profit good care/research with truly good results would be rewarded. The poorer would get sliding scale fees or free care that wouldn't impinge upon others because the money would be there to pay for it and not in the pockets of the mega-rich. In a non-profit system, doctors/CEO's would still make money, it's just the pharm/ins industry wouldn't make ridiculous profit, they'd have to re-invest it in the system.

A few mega rich would suffer for the good of all. So? Why not?

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Anonymous

Asked by Anonymous at 10:55 AM on Apr. 4, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • What makes you think that people will desire to go to school for 8+ years just to work for a non-profit industry? Capitalization provides the incentive to work harder and do better. It used to be that in this country you could do whatever you wanted to make the best of your life - by whatever measure you decide. If that means that you could get a great education, work hard, and make money then so be it. If that means that you get a job that covers the bills, settle down, have kids and spend your life raising children, then so be it. Why do the left demand that everyone else bend to their will? There are other ways to go about reform without destroying the whole system, that is, if destruction wasn't the real agenda.

    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 11:08 AM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • My insurance coverage is great and we have no problem with it at all. However, having to schedule a "sick-visit" to my PP's office 3 weeks in advance is ludicrous. We have a cash only doctor in town (he does not accept any insurance of any kind ever) and when we wake up sick we call him instead of our PP because we can get in and out of his office in less than 30 minutes for the great price of $35 (follow up visits within 2 weeks are $10). We save the insurance for major emergencies and just pay as we go for things like UTI, Sinus Infection, etc...

    ThatTXMom

    Answer by ThatTXMom at 11:39 AM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • 11:08 anon, why do you assume doctors at non-profit hospitals make no money?? Good physicians at current non-profit reward for good outcome hospitals make excellent money. Non-profit does not imply you don't pay your good employees good money. You just don't give CEO's 15 million per year.. they re-invest the extra into the company or into reduced/free care.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 1:09 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • @ anon 11:08 You also should not pay bad doctors more than good doctors.. like the current system often does.

    Docs are not rewarded for good outcomes unless they are prestigious. You have to be perfect or push quantity or you are not rewarded with high pay. So, mediocre normal docs have incentive to go quantity over quality in most cases.. It's ludicrous and extremely damaging - plus hospital administrators and the insurance industry often dictates care given... tying the hands of otherwise good doctors.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 1:15 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • So you are for government run healthcare? No way. If all medical facilities and Drs. were non profit they wpould have to work for the government because thats where non profit groups get their money. The government gets it's money from our tax dollars. Thanks I'll stick with my very capeable Dr who by the way has not asked for a co pay nor sent me a bill in 1 1/2 yrs. I say if your Dr doesn't give quality care you should find another Dr. Thats called free enterprise. Only the deserving will survive.It doesn't have to be forced by the government.
    itsmesteph11

    Answer by itsmesteph11 at 3:34 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • We need less insurance not more insurance. Non-profit or not, insurance is the reason health care costs so much.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 5:56 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • If you will be happy with people that only going into health care for a steady check, then I am sure you will be happy with it. Without the possiblity of profits we would basically still be treating ourselves with herbs and prayers.

    You can't expect the "mega rich" to be the only ones to pay for it either. The health industry is 1/6 of the US economy. It stands to reason the "mega rich" that got that way via this industry would no longer be part of the "pay" pool. Then of course there is that whole pesky trickle down affect.

    You are placing more blame with the health CARE industry than with the health INSURANCE industry..and that is where a lot of it belongs. Our government really screwed this up.
    yourspecialkid

    Answer by yourspecialkid at 6:21 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • Trickle-down economics is pesky, alright. It steals away from the middle class and only serves to increase inflation.

    If you get rid of people who do not do their jobs, earn money making sure people DO NOT get better/care, but earn a heckuva lot of money to not do these jobs, it would only benefit us as a whole.

    Non-profit hospitals are the best hospitals in this country, and generally are NOT subsidized by the government -- you're thinking of County hospitals that are generally mostly government run. I'm talking about PRIVATE non-profits. Yes, they get huge tax breaks and/or pay very little in taxes. It's win-win, they don't take of the government and don't give to it, either.

    The insurance industry is a problem, the pharmaceutical industry is a problem, AND the medical system is a problem. It's all a problem and they're all compounding each other.

    Something has to give or the board is gonna break!
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 8:23 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • You just don't give CEO's 15 million per year.. they re-invest the extra into the company or into reduced/free care.
    ----
    CEO's of charities and non-profits get big pay, all the time. The fact that they are non-profit does not mean they will just plow all that money back into the company. Some might, sure, but not all of them.

    What the hell is wrong with this country, that the word PROFIT has become a 4-letter word??? All of you who think profit is evil (for the rich, only, of course...) well, how about YOU submit what your housing, utilities, and half of your food, transpo, and clothing expenses to your employer and that amount will be what you get paid. Because, you see, YOU don't need a profit, either. If you want that new dress, well, cut back on the electricity. Get creative with the menu, and the closet. You don't need a new car, either. Keep the one you have. Wanna be treated like the rich? You can be!!
    29again

    Answer by 29again at 8:42 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

  • I think you have been watching to much Micheal Moore.

    Natesmom507

    Answer by Natesmom507 at 10:15 PM on Apr. 4, 2010

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