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Teacher removed for grading too hard...

A professor at LSU was removed from an introductory biology class. She does not grade on a curve. She gives a quiz at the beginning of every class. Her multiple choice questions have 10 choices instead of the usual 4. By mid-term 90% of the students were failing or had dropped the course. So, the univ stepped in and removed the professor and changed the grades of the students.

Was the university right to do this, or should the professor have the right to demand a certain level of study and mastery of the subject and grade accordingly?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-04-15-IHE-tough-prof-removed-LSU-15_ST_N.htm

 
29again

Asked by 29again at 7:23 PM on Apr. 17, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • The universtity was WRONG. I am 38 years old and go to school with 18 year olds and they have NO idea how to study, take a quiz or exam, or succeed in college. They think they don't need to show up for class, that they can play on the computer during class, text people or do nothing and still get passing grades. Maybe if people did what was expected of them, they would pass the class. Don't always blame it on the teacher. I have plenty of instructors that will flat out tell you, NO curves, the class will be hard and most people don't get an A in the class. I have also been told that you will not pass if you don't show up, do the work or participate. It's college, the students MUST take responsibility for their own actions. Some people need to understand that they can't have everything handed to them, that they need to work for it.
    tyfry7496

    Answer by tyfry7496 at 11:24 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • They should have kept her. She was just doing her job.
    armywife2009101

    Answer by armywife2009101 at 7:24 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • I don't think that was grounds for dismissal? We have teachers here that are abusing kids and getting away with it. Nothing to do with their grades.
    QandA

    Answer by QandA at 7:26 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • she was just doing her job. maybe the students should have worked harder.
    jennifer588

    Answer by jennifer588 at 7:29 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • it seems a little extreme, but most college professors do NOT grade on a curve.
    I have quizzes at the beginning of each class and it forces you to keep up with the material...so it pushes you harder to do better in that class. Biology and other science classes you NEED to keep up.
    The multiple choice questions are just stupid...they shouldn't be multiple choice if she's going to waste time putting 10 options down lol
    the college or school regulations need to be enforced.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:31 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • It's amazing how parents and students equate grades with learning. If a child earns straight A s it's assumed they learned more than a student in another class who earned C s. In reality, schools and teachers who challenge kids more and have higher standards have much greater student achievement. The fact that so many were failing is questionable. But one of the issues with education in this country is we have low standards for our kids.

    maxswolfsuit

    Answer by maxswolfsuit at 7:32 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • They didn't get rid of her. They just took that one class away from her. But still, I think the univ was wrong. They basically said that it didn't matter how much the student studied, they were going to pass anyway. So WRONG!!!! We HAVE to hold the students to a certain standard...
    29again

    Answer by 29again at 7:33 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • That's not enough info to go on. I've have courses where the multiple choice test would include questions with information that was only included in passing in the caption below a picture in the text book (and if it's not an open book test there's little to no chance you'd remember it or have even jotted it down to study). Absolutely trivial information, that had nothing to do with the subject and only illustrated one of thousand of a thing, like, this is an example of a chemical diagram, and the question would ask about that specific chemical, the only time it was mentioned. If there were enough questions like that, and the whole thing was just designed to be a gotcha instead of actually teaching anything, the firing could be warranted. If, however, it's the same basic info covered in any other school, then no, probably not. Professors are not infallible, and some of them have absolutely no business doing the job.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 7:39 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • this is to maxswolfsuit......
    the grade is just a letter placed to how hard you did work. My hubby is in two science classes and he studies upwards of 20 hours a week...literally. He's making A's in both those classes because he's getting 90% and up on his tests,....THAT's the difference between him and the other people in the classes who are failing and getting lower letter grades. People that WORK FOR IT get the grade...they KNOW thier stuff because they take the time to do it....and the grade on the test reflects what they know, because they can answer the questions CORRECTLY. So I do feel that grades to reflect what people learn, especially when your an ADULT going to a UNIVERSITY.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:40 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

  • I have to wonder how good of a teacher she is if 90% of her students were failing at midterm.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 7:41 PM on Apr. 17, 2010

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