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So should these jobs be considerd saved / created?

The Obama administration is bent on trying to fulfill at least one promise about jobs saved or created. But is this the ethical and correct way to go about those counts?


Asked by Anonymous at 1:10 PM on May. 28, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • How many classes do you need to knock on doors and pass out census forms?

    My husband attended 4 consecutive, 8 hour paid days of training, and then started knocking on doors to get people to complete their censuses--he didn't hand out the forms, he actually completed the forms for those unable or unwilling to do it themselves! He even got an "extra" week because the government changed the "rules," a week after his training ended, and having to "re-do" the way he obtained the info--guess the numbers weren't adding up in the government's favor? LOL

    He was able to take a paid week off from work, so it was just an opportunity to make some extra cash, but the MAJORITY of census takers desperately NEEDED the work and were hoping it would pan out to be more steady than it actually turned out to be.

    But hey, that's the government for you...and so many people are okay with them handling our health care!! *sigh*

    Answer by LoriKeet at 11:53 AM on May. 29, 2010

  • Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 1:10 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • Having seen so much BS come from this administration, this does seem par for the course. I don't think they know how to find their way out of a wet paper bag, they probably need 3 or 4 supervisors to figure out the best place to apply pressure to break through the barrier of the paper, you know, to find the weakest point. Then, a small crew would be needed to decide how to best exit the protection of said bag, with another crew on standby to direct them to the closest suitable shelter. Once they are properly sheltered, they will need yet another crew to find suitable transport back to where they belong, along with the drivers, navigators and other assorted redundant positions that this administration takes such delight in hiring.

    Answer by 29again at 1:55 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • Thats hillareous, Even so I can't believe they would even think you might see a difference with a few rehires. Even with the census workers being hired unemployment is hardly budging. They really need to give up the creating jobs ruse.

    Answer by itsmesteph11 at 2:12 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • Nope.

    Answer by MunchMunch at 2:37 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • I cannot remember what day it was but a few weeks ago Obama said he was created new jobs and the first thing out of my mouth was what job?? The census worker and the IRS workers were the only thing that crossed my mind and I thought aloud.. it wont even create a dent into the unemployment!

    Answer by Shaneagle777 at 3:50 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • No, it wouldn't create a dent if those were the only jobs. The problem with their numbers is that when they lay these people off they end up rehiring them and then calling it another created job. Even though it's the same job, they rehire over and over again and those numbers start to add up. This whole saved or created jobs thing is just a ruse. They are finding ways to fudge the numbers and they get away with it on a large scale because most people aren't going to do the work to find out where these jobs are. They just think 'Hey, that's great that Obama created *enter whatever number* jobs!', when in reality they only created a fraction of public sector jobs which don't create government revenue.


    Answer by QuinnMae at 4:15 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • I believe it! My husband just wrapped up being a Census taker! He was trained the first week in May, and started working on May 8th. He was told he would have a MINIMUM of 8 weeks of full-time work. He finished on Wednesday, 19 days after starting! The "kicker" is, his supervisor has had to "fire" ALL of his workers, BUT told them there is a TRAINING CLASS being held next week consisting of over 100 new census takers...but there is NO WORK AVAILABLE!!

    HOWEVER, all of these trainings are paid, and therefore count as "jobs created" according to Obama's definition! Any wonder WHY training began in late April? So they could count April in the employment numbers, and the training net week will count towards June numbers!!!

    I have no idea how Obama is going to be able to explain the lack of numbers in the jobs created/saved department come August/September...and just in time for mid-term elections!! Oh, well!! LOL :o)

    Answer by LoriKeet at 5:14 PM on May. 28, 2010

  • Lori, my friend is having a similar experience. They keep sending him to class after class, but they don't teach anything new. Still, they pay him to go. He isn't doing census work anymore, just taking class after class.

    How many classes do you need to knock on doors and pass out census forms?

    Answer by mancosmomma at 10:46 AM on May. 29, 2010

  • lori, How silly of you. He's not going to explain anything. he's just going to avoid the press some more.

    Answer by lovinangels at 1:42 PM on May. 29, 2010