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interesting parallel.....POPE ORDERS NUNS OUT OF AUSCHWITZ

Carmelite nuns opened a convent near Auschwitz I in 1984. After some Jewish groups called for the removal of the convent, representatives of the Catholic Church agreed in 1987. One year later the Carmelites erected the large cross from the 1979 mass near their site, just outside Block 11, the notorious torture prison in Auschwitz I, visible from within the camp. The Catholic Church ordered the Carmelites to move by 1989, but they remained until 1993, leaving the large cross behind.

This led to protests by Jewish groups, who said that mostly Jews were killed at Auschwitz and demanded that religious symbols be kept away from the site. Some Catholics have pointed out that the people killed in Auschwitz I were mainly Polish Catholics. (Furthermore, Auschwitz I is the site of the martyrdom of Catholic Saint Maximilian Kolbe). Ian Kagedan of B'nai Brith Canada called the erection of the cross, "an obvious gap in understanding.

 
momof030404

Asked by momof030404 at 12:10 AM on Aug. 14, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • The moral of this incident is that, even though the objections were based on falsehoods, the Catholic church leaders pulled up roots and moved an ALREADY-ESTABLISHED center simply out of consideration for the feelings of the objectors.

    I have heard muslims saying that their Koran orders them to be similarly considerate of their neighbors' feelings, that causing mischief in the way that this Cordoba Initiative is doing is actually a specific act prohibited by the Koran.

    This Cordoba Initiative seems to have a belligerent agenda hiding behind religious platitudes calculated to play gullible Americans for fools ...
    waldorfmom

    Answer by waldorfmom at 12:21 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • The nuns should not have moved, but regardless, this was not an issue of people wanting the government to shut down the convent, as people are calling for with the community center. The pope was under no obligation to say yes or shut it down, he did it to avoid prolonged drama.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 12:28 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • hot mama have you forgotten your meds again? It doesn't take rocket science to see she is basing the parallel on the respect of the FEELINGS of others.
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 1:21 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • Seems to me Hotmama, you are choosing to ignore the disrespect they are showing by insisting they build it there regardless of how it is making others feel. Hypocrite
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 10:08 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • reconnaissance ___???
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 1:23 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • Momof, & Carpy


    Somebody should have told you that the tolerant left is not very tolerant of other ladies opinions.


    I also see you are basing the parallel on the respect of the feelings of others.

    Natesmom507

    Answer by Natesmom507 at 4:22 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • I don't give a s*** about respecting others feeling when it comes to stupid excuses

    ***

    Says it all right there. HER opinion of what is or isn't stupid is kind of ironic with regards to this subject, don't you think?! LOL
    LoriKeet

    Answer by LoriKeet at 7:03 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • OP-- GREAT POST!! Unfortunately some people are hell bent on their position, and refuse to see the clear and obvious PARALLEL!! Of course it's not the EXACT same situation, that's why it's called a PARALLEL!!

    In order to really understand this you have to 1.) believe in an organized religion (not an atheist, agnostic, or some newly coined hybrid), and 2.) have the ability to put yourself in the shoes of others, otherwise you're going to continue beating your head against a wall!!!
    LoriKeet

    Answer by LoriKeet at 7:12 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • Maybe the Pope did it because he wanted to show sensitivity to the Jewish Community.

    They said"Hey, that bothers us."

    He said, "Okay, we don't want to hurt you further."

    He didn't say, " Oh, well, we know what's best for you. You're gonna feel better once we're done with this project, wait and see!"

    And he didn't say, "You think this is bad, don't get your panties in a wad over this one, WE ARE GOING TO FRIGG YOU REALLY GOOD DOWN THE ROAD, STUPID PEOPLE, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO PISS YOU OFF IN THE NEAR FUTRE, AFTER THE PLACE IS BUILT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT ONLY GETS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    mustbeGRACE

    Answer by mustbeGRACE at 9:52 AM on Aug. 14, 2010

  • Lets not stoop to comparing two tragidies as a reason to justify hate. Hate is hate, is hate. I am sure that my distant cousins would say it is comparing apples to oranges. Both were horrible but its not a good idea to compare the two.
    pnwmom

    Answer by pnwmom at 2:25 AM on Aug. 15, 2010