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Did you know that one could be charged with a hate crime if you say that homosexuality is a sin?

Opponents of a new federal hate crime law say the legislation could turn ministers into criminals.

Pastors and others could be prosecuted as criminals for speaking out against homosexual behavior and the political agenda that promotes it.

The act makes it a federal offense to assault someone because of his or her sexual orientation or gender identity.

Do you agree with this law that ministers can not speak out against homosexuality or do you feel that its going against freedom of religion and/or free speech?

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35yoamom

Asked by 35yoamom at 3:39 PM on Sep. 5, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • 1984 anyone?!
    LoriKeet

    Answer by LoriKeet at 3:40 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • Christian leaders have expressed particular concern that attempts to secure the right to speak against the homosexual lifestyle and its normalization failed. Among many rejected proposals for similar hate crimes legislation introduced in the House this year was one offered by Rep. Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, which would have included a clause ensuring that ministers could not be prosecuted for abetting a "hate crime" simply because they preached the Christian perspective on homosexuality
    35yoamom

    Comment by 35yoamom (original poster) at 3:42 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • 1984 anyone?!

    Answer by LoriKeet

    HUH?
    35yoamom

    Comment by 35yoamom (original poster) at 3:42 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • Pastors and others could be prosecuted as criminals for speaking out against homosexual behavior and the political agenda that promotes it.

    You can be arrested for speaking out against pretty much anything if you are doing it in a threatening manner or infringing on someone else's right. No one is trying to prevent anyone from peaceful protest. You need to look closer and the source of your information.
    soyousay

    Answer by soyousay at 3:47 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • In George Orwell's book "1984", the gov't - Big Brother - had thought police, used various phrases to numb the minds of people (like the Dept. in charge of war was titled "the Ministry of Peace", etc.)

    ... and a large number of words were criminally banned from being spoken or written: words like Truth, or Freedom. In the book, Orwell's Big Brother gov't has banned these words in order to stamp out the population's ability to even have the concept of such ideas as freedom or individuality - concepts which would make them less accepting of the gov't's oppressive control.

    Lorikeet got it in one with her comment "1984, anyone?"
    waldorfmom

    Answer by waldorfmom at 3:57 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • Thank you 35yoamom.
    The fact that an attempt to prevent the hate crime legislation from interfering with religious freedom was OPPOSED gives a sharp insight into the true intent of those pushing for hate crime law. They DO, in fact, wish to suppress thoughts and ideas which are not politically correct (according to THEIR judgment of correct thoughts and ideas !! )

    Thoughts and ideas were specifically protected from gov't oppression in TWO phrases - freedom of speech AND freedom of religion ... freedom of assembly also has something to do preachers talking to their voluntarily-assembled congregations.

    And from banning religious free speech, it is only a tiny little hop to banning non-religious free speech, as a way to control what people hear about and thus control what they are able to think about.

    This is not just a "slippery slope" - it is a free-fall precipice.
    waldorfmom

    Answer by waldorfmom at 3:59 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • WHOA>.. Okay... LoriKeet that was deep.. Thanks Waldorfmom
    35yoamom

    Comment by 35yoamom (original poster) at 4:00 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • I thought your question specified if anyone assaults a homosexual? Or threatened them. I seriously doubt that a sermon that speaks out against homosexuality on the basis of "sin" will be an offense. It might be prejudiced and inappropriate, but not illegal or a "hate crime".
    Where is the LINK?
    gertie41

    Answer by gertie41 at 4:02 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • 35...

    I was referring to George Orwell's novel 1984...you know the part where "thoughtcrimes" were rampant as the government attempted to control the speech and actions and thoughts of people.

    Sometime life really IS stranger than fiction! Whatever happened to the First Amendment, how does Congress think this is NOT overstepping their bounds?!
    LoriKeet

    Answer by LoriKeet at 4:02 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

  • Thanks Waldorf!! :o)
    LoriKeet

    Answer by LoriKeet at 4:05 PM on Sep. 5, 2010

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