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Is it the higher ranking, older military that are hanging onto DADT?

Officials familiar with its findings told The Associated Press this week that the survey found most U.S. troops and their families don't care whether gays serve openly and think "don't ask, don't tell" could be done away with. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the results of the survey have not been released.

Details on the findings were still scarce. But in conversations with troops and veterans, the idea repeatedly emerges that younger recruits, who make up the bulk of combat troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, are indifferent while older ones, including many officers, don't want the ban lifted.

Many veterans of the current wars use terms like "archaic" and "old-school" to describe the viewpoint they see from higher-ranking officers and others who support the ban.

 
sweet-a-kins

Asked by sweet-a-kins at 10:21 PM on Oct. 31, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • My DH served in the Navy years ago. He said most guys already know who is gay & who is not without even saying anything & that NO ONE CARED! Everyone was too busy with their own stuff to care about any one's sexual orientation. He agree's that DADT is just stupid.
    samurai_chica

    Answer by samurai_chica at 8:21 AM on Nov. 1, 2010

  • I love that answer, works4mom :)
    AprilDJC

    Answer by AprilDJC at 10:45 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • That is pretty interesting and I can understand how the older military reacts to the gay issues. They were raised in the era of repression and disapproval...and they can't seem to change.
    I really think they need to get going on this. The whole thing is just hanging in mid-air and keeping everyone in suspense. They need a decision NOW.
    Why not just get rid of DADT and allow equal rights for gays. Its a crime how they are discriminated against and for such picky,uptight reasons.
    kerp1960

    Answer by kerp1960 at 10:39 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • Is this a question or a statement? lol

    As a God fearing Christian, I can tell you with all certainty it's Homophobic, Control Freak Christians within the Military.
    You would have to be senseless to support such an absurd policy as DADT.
    Are you telling me that if was you and your family and 1 gay guy were in a hut and the gay guy said "I'll sacrifice myself so you can get your family out of this war zone" anyone of us would say "HELL NO! You're GAY! I'm not going to allow you to fight for my freedom."???? I'd kiss him on the lips then run like hell!
    Works4Mom.com

    Answer by Works4Mom.com at 10:40 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • Ashley, who retired in 2007 and now is a pastor near the Fort Campbell installation on the Tennessee-Kentucky state line, said he does not approve of homosexuality based on his Christian beliefs. But, he said, the military should either repeal the law or create an outright ban on gay soldiers because trying to fall somewhere in the middle sends a bad message. "That's repressive. It's an awful statement to homosexual soldiers and it's an awful statement to leaders," he said.


    This sums it up.

    Sisteract

    Answer by Sisteract at 10:45 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • There is no comprehensive survey of military-wide views of gays in the ranks — yet. The Pentagon is set to release a study of the issue in December after questioning 400,000 service members and 150,000 relatives, an effort ordered by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to determine how to repeal the policy without hurting the military.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101031/ap_on_re_us/us_gays_in_military_generation_gap

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 10:22 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • "You can't expect a 60-year-old colonel who was reared in the 1950s to have the same opinion about homosexuality as a soldier who was reared in the 1990s," said Abel Trevino, who served in the Army from 2003 to 2008, including two tours in Iraq, before returning to civilian life and enrolling at the University of Washington.


    Some say that despite the ban, they knew they were serving with gay soldiers. But the topic was simply not discussed and rarely created a problem.


    Justin Little, 30, is a National Guard medic who asked that his unit not be identified, because he serves with a gay soldier.

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 10:22 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • "We keep it to ourselves, because of the current policies, of course, and conceal it from new recruits that we get in our platoon from time to time until we can be confident in how they'd react," Little said.


    Lance Shults, 25, a master at arms at Naval Base San Diego, said he was in boot camp with gay men and women, and that serving alongside them isn't a concern. Shults believes his attitude is common among younger members of the military, who have grown up with portrayals of gays in the media and who may be likelier to have openly gay friends or relatives than older officers and enlistees.

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 10:23 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • Ashley, who retired in 2007 and now is a pastor near the Fort Campbell installation on the Tennessee-Kentucky state line, said he does not approve of homosexuality based on his Christian beliefs. But, he said, the military should either repeal the law or create an outright ban on gay soldiers because trying to fall somewhere in the middle sends a bad message.


    "That's repressive. It's an awful statement to homosexual soldiers and it's an awful statement to leaders," he said.

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 10:25 PM on Oct. 31, 2010

  • Is this a question or a statement? lol


    LOL..It is a question..maybe the better question should be do they have a point? I don't agree with them, but is their point valid?

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 7:59 AM on Nov. 1, 2010

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