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Picture this scenario: (S/O on American flag question)

You are living in an area that is known for gang activity, mainly let's say... The Bloods (gang color red). However, your grandmother knitted you this lovely blue sweater. Blue, for those of you who don't know, is the gang color for the Crips, who are mortal enemies with the Bloods.

Okay, so everybody knows gangs are ridiculous, criminals, stupid, whatever. Everybody also knows gangs shouldn't be messed with, unless you have a death wish. Question: Do you wear your grandmother's blue sweater (because legally, you have a RIGHT to) in your neighborhood, or do you think maybe it's safer not to?

 
Anouck

Asked by Anouck at 2:17 PM on Nov. 12, 2010 in Politics & Current Events

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  • The kids with American Flags were told they had to change/remove their flags/etc on Cinco de Mayo. 


    IIRC, the students were encouraged to take part in May 5th celebrations and were given a dress code BEFORE that day. The students were suspended for defiance- of the dress code AND refusal to change the outfits on the 5th, when directed by the VP to do so. It was the disrespect and defiance that they were disciplined for, not their overzealous love of America. They would have been expelled from private school for such defiant behavior.


    Lesson taught- use of COTUS as a weapon- and their parents sanctioned it. These are the kind of people who grow up AND B*tch about the kid with the flag on his bike-because THEY CAN. Lack of common sense.

    Sisteract

    Answer by Sisteract at 2:54 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • I get your point, but its just not the same. Wearing a rival gang color is not the same as displaying the US flag inside the borders of the US.
    To use your analogy... it would be like the chief of police telling the officers that they need to change the colors on their uniforms, because a blue uniform would incite gang tensions in Bloods neighborhoods.
    brandyj

    Answer by brandyj at 2:25 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • Wearing a rival gang color is not the same as displaying the US flag inside the borders of the US.


     


    I agree!

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:30 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • But anouck, no one stopped the kids with Mexican flags(on cinco de mayo), I believe... The kids with American Flags were told they had to change/remove their flags/etc on Cinco de Mayo. While the kids supporting the Mexican flags were allowed to continue their expression.Double Standard?
    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:41 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • So with this in mind~ "principal being more concerned about the best interest of ALL students at the school"~ then students should not be allowed to bring, fly, represent their individual Mexican Flags in May, right?

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:35 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • t was a Holiday-Cinco De May. Is this flying of the flag on a Bike a Holiday gesture? No,it wasn't. Try to think .....it could help your understanding of many things,Grly


    Cinco De Mayo is not a US recognized federal holiday, kerp-ie-lu...  So, in theory there was NO need for a UNITED STATES PUBLIC SCHOOL to allow 'official' recognition of  the day, right?  So, if a boy wants to show respect to military when the US is in TWO WARS, and his grandfather is a veteran?  Then he should have EVERY RIGHT to do so.  Then to wait 2 months till the week of a FEDERAL HOLDIDAY~ Veteran's Day to tell the boy to remove his flag?  Seriously?

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:49 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • I don't think I would have stuck around living in a neighborhood like that. I would do all I could to get the hell out of a place like that. Not a positive place or way to live. Then I could wear whatever I choose without having to think about things like that.
    2BlondeBabies

    Answer by 2BlondeBabies at 2:25 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • the students were encouraged to take part in May 5th celebrations and were given a dress code BEFORE that day.


    Another Question: Why is a public school giving a dress code REQUIREMENT for a day that is NOT a Federal Holiday?  Ohh wait, the school disctirct did NOT condone the action of the school.."The Morgan Hill Unified School District does not prohibit nor do we discourage wearing patriotic clothing," Smith's statement read. "The incident on May 5 at Live Oak High School is extremely unfortunate. While campus safety is our primary concern and administrators made decisions yesterday in an attempt to ensure campus safety, students should not, and will not, be disciplined for wearing patriotic clothing. This matter is under investigation and appropriate action will be taken."

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 3:01 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • Grlygrlz2, from what I get from the article is that the principal didn't act on the kid flying his flag until he got numerous complaints. This is how the real world works, you react to certain situations based on the information you receive. How would you have handled it, seriously?


    It's an American Flag.  Was his life in jeopardy in those 2 months?  Was he causing harm to anyone in those 2 months?  Was EVEN told he could display the flag on at the very least Veteren's Day?

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 3:09 PM on Nov. 12, 2010

  • Constitutionally, the boy is in his RIGHT....  Based on Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District~ "But, in our system, undifferentiated fear or apprehension of disturbance is not enough to overcome the right to freedom of expression"

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 3:11 PM on Nov. 12, 2010