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Why doesn't the LDS church give baptized children an option to quit the church at 18?

without all the hassle? Its thier choice, not their parents'.
you can't make a contract with a mior, so how can it be binding like that?
Why are they automatically made lifetime members once they are baptized with no easy way out?
Even when they adopt another faith, the LDS church keeps sending missionaries and won't let you out or get the message your not interested? why?
Yes there's a way to quit the church, but they don't make it easy and have been known to harrass people.

 
Zoeyis

Asked by Zoeyis at 5:03 AM on Nov. 16, 2010 in Religion & Beliefs

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  • That is horrible if you are having problems with it OP. I was baptized mormon at 9 or 10 I have not been in one of their churches since I was 12 and the only time I have heard from them is from random chance of them knocking on my door. Even than it has been a few years. I have never given much thought to if they have me listed in their books as a mormon or not. I kind of figure just because they put my name on a list does not make it true. If it did I am signing myself up on the super model list.

    Alanaplus3

    Answer by Alanaplus3 at 8:44 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • (cont) and not one meant to spark a debate or a bash. i hope i answered your question; let me know if you need anything else
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:18 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • this question seems a little angry, so i wonder if this is personal for you. if that is the case, then i am very, very sorry. i served as a missionary for the church, and it was always frustrating when people interpreted our actions as harrassing. we were always instructed to leave people alone when they asked. we also submitted the paperwork when people requested their records removed. the records of the church are never fully "erased". it's more like their updated - so&so says NEVER knock on their door again!!! that's all fine and dandy, but what happens when so&so moves? or that piece of paper is lost? or the missionaries are just knocking on doors in that area, and hit so&so's house? we try to keep records as updated and accurate as possible, but sometimes reality hits.
    baptism IS an agreement to be lifetime members, and so to sever that relationship is always difficult. the contract is not between the child and the (cont
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:10 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • church, but rather the child and god. the child agrees to follow god always. yes, it may seem that a child can be whimsical in their decisions regarding lifetime choices, but so are adults. baptism is not a do-or-die thing. in order to be baptised, a person needs to make an informed decision based upon his or her understanding and maturity. following baptism, a person (adult or child) needs to be instructed and guided and constantly supported in the challenges they face in life. they walk the path that christ walked, and it is not easy. of course, anyone is free to come, and they are all welcome to leave as well. like i said before, if this is you, then i am sorry you are experiencing this, and i hope that you will be able to express to the missionaries clearly that you no longer wish to be contacted by anyone affiliated with the church again (except for random questions on cm!)
    i sincerely hope this was an earnest question,
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:16 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • it's not a contract, nobody signs anything. there's no obligation set forth that they have to go through, nor are there consequences for delinquent behavior. baptism is a physical act representing a dedication to god. to go back and say later, haha! just kidding! can be difficult for a community to process, just like any change a person makes can be.
    a child can grasp the concept of personal responsibility. that is why baptism doesn't take place until they are eight - any younger and they simply do not have the mental maturity. even a kid who "worships" santa claus understands that - be good and you get presents. one learns and grows in the religion, just like in every other aspect of life.
    you have a valid point about the decision to be rebaptised. but i disagree with the age. at what point does one really mature? just because in america we have affixed the age of 18 to adulthood doesn't mean that we are mature enough then
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:31 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • I have NEVER found an organized religious group which openly gave people the option to leave at 18. The thing is, offered or not, they don't get the choice - you do. Are they gonna fight you on it? Of course, that's their job. They don't want you to leave, cause guess what, no people = no money! I have never agreed with a religious org. that brings children in to the fold as if they were adults. I understand wanting or having children learn or share your beliefs, but a 9, 10 - 15 year old doesn't have the understanding to make choices that will or could affect them the rest of their lives... Really, it's that simple. They shouldn't be allowing children to join the church as a full fledged member until they are without a doubt old enough to make those choices without their parent's push one way or another...
    SabrinaMBowen

    Answer by SabrinaMBowen at 11:35 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • There is nothing magic about the age 18, except that our federal government has deemed people to be legally adults at that age....even at 18, most people are not able to make mature decisions, and our brains are not completely developed until we are about 25....of course, that isn't what you are asking......just wanted to get that in there...AS for the mormon church trying to get lost members to return, they aren't alone in that...if they believe you are going to hell, they are trying to save your life, and not irritating you is low on the list in their mindset...
    Anna92464

    Answer by Anna92464 at 11:46 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • A 9yo child doesn't grasp those sort of things. Thats why we have civil laws protecting children from making contract until they are old enough and educated enough to make those sort of decisions. Religion should be the same way. A child would worship Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny if you told them too, they aren't mature enough yet to understand what it is they are agreeing to.

    After they are adults the should be baptized again to renew their agreement or be given the option to leave the church. The records you speak of would then record this refusal/acceptance to be baptized again at 18. It would save some work.
    Zoeyis

    Comment by Zoeyis (original poster) at 6:20 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • to make those decisions, either. there are plenty of people that get married at an even older age than that, and still screw up their lives. and yet marriage is a lifelong contract as well. but they are adults - they must live with the consequences of their actions. so do people of younger ages.
    an eight-year-old does not realize every single aspect of the decision they are making when they chose to be baptised. none of us do, no matter what the age. that is where faith comes in. that is why missionaries and other church members "harrass" people - they try to make sure members are still learning and growing, and they have all their needs met. you don't get baptised and then never go to church again. that's not the agreement you make, in the lds faith, anyway. nobody realizes the full implications of most decisions - marriage, college, moving to a new city. there's no magical age that you know these things. you make the
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:35 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

  • decision, and then you gain hindsight. that's how we gain our knowledge - through experience. eight years old is what the church calls the age of accountability. that's when a child is able to distinguish right from wrong. that is when they are eligible for baptism. they are not baptised as babies. and they are certainly not left alone to flounder.
    i hope that answered your question.
    AngryBob

    Answer by AngryBob at 6:38 AM on Nov. 16, 2010

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