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Why do so many of you want to vilify and malign the Christian Pilgrims?

The comments in the posts below are very argumentative. Why do you have to take a day that was beautiful (and Christian) and twist it into something violent (and non-Christian).

I think some of you have a problem with Christian History.

I mean Thanksgiving has nothing to do with massacring Indians, or the trail of tears. Were people mean to the Indians? Yes. Is that what happened on the first Thanksgiving? no.

 
Anonymous

Asked by Anonymous at 6:41 PM on Nov. 24, 2010 in Religion & Beliefs

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Answers (10)
  • I agree with you OP... I don't understand the need to deny it's a Christian Holiday. And... RyansMom.. I do want to point out that "most people who came over in the early days" were here for religious freedom so they were very much religious and brought that into the First Thanksgiving.
    Jambo4

    Answer by Jambo4 at 6:49 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • Thanksgiving is not a christian holiday....its not focused on any religion.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 6:45 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • It has nothing to do with the fact that the Pilgrims were Christian. Nor does it have anything to do with the fact that Natives were mistreated. What it does have to do with (at least for me) is the fact that today's Thanksgiving celebration is far from historical. It's based on a fictional story about the First Thanksgiving which never happened... If you are to believe the stories we teach our children the Pilgrims were some savior to the Natives, they founded the day as a way to give thanks to their Gods and to convince the Natives to convert to a more "civilized" way of life... ALL of which is CRAP!
    SabrinaMBowen

    Answer by SabrinaMBowen at 6:48 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • It was violent and it was Christian. That is it's history. Those are the facts. Ignorance sucks. No one date wins the 'first Thanksgiving' award. There were several dates that were 'Days for Thanksgiving' many of which followed after battles and death. Only when the US government set aside a date for Thanksgiving did this idea become something closer to the religious ideal that it once was. But the fact remains that it is very Christian to give thanks after victory, after a battle and to ignore how others, those who lost will view that celebration. Giving thanks for death is what it is, and that is not something I want to celebrate.
    isabellalecour

    Answer by isabellalecour at 6:53 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • It IS a Christian Holiday.
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 6:46 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • It's easier then acknowledging that all people don't fit into one box. Regardless of your beliefs there are good people and bad people in the world. That fact cuts across all ethnic, religious and cultural lines. Most people who came over in the early days were just trying to survive from day to day. 

    RyansMom001

    Answer by RyansMom001 at 6:46 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • To say it is not, is to say that Samhain is not Pagan just because other religions celebrate Halloween.
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 6:47 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • " If you are to believe the stories we teach our children the Pilgrims were some savior to the Natives . . ."

    Uhm, the Natives SAVED the lives of the Pilgrims! Hello!!!

    The Natives taught the Pilgrims how to survive in the New World, Sabrina. They were not living "civilized lives."
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 6:52 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • If the first Thanksgiving was violent, why were the Native American's friends with them? Why did they convert to Chrisianity? Why did they help bring 5 deer, ducks, fish, beans, corn, and vegetables, when there wasn't enough food for everyone? Why did they hang out with the Pilgrims for three days to celebrate this feast?

    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 6:56 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

  • Sorry OP, what you as history is myth. Not truth, fiction, not reality. That wasn't Thanksgiving. That was mercy on a bunch of starving women and children who's men were not prepared to deal with winter in the new world after they were blown off course. It wasn't so much of being friends but respecting their humanity. They hung out, just one did, to teach them the ways of the land. But the Pilgrims did eventually return mercy with violence. Did your history lesson ignore that too?
    isabellalecour

    Answer by isabellalecour at 7:08 PM on Nov. 24, 2010

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