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Gunman made previous 'threats of death' but not against Giffords?

Doesn't look like he was a one-sided politically obsessed deranged freak.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening that the man linked to the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and others might have an accomplice.
“We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said at a news conference.
Dupnik said investigators have reason to believe the 22-year-old suspect whom he would not name came to the scene with someone else. “We have photos,” Dupnik said of the gunman’s companion.
The “person of interest” is a male in his 50s. He said authorities were in an active search for the individual late Saturday.
Nate T. Gray, of the FBI, referred to bringing “those responsible” to justice.
Six people have now died in the attack, said Gray, who is in charge of the FBI office in Phoenix. Five people died at the scene and a 9-year-old girl died at a hospital, said Dupnik.
This is a sad day for Tucson ... a sad day for America,” Dupnik said.
There was no security at the event, a meet-and-greet outside a Safeway on the northwest side, Gray said. In all, 19 people were shot or injured, Dupnik said.
The names of those killed were not going to be released officially until all family members of the victims have been notified, the sheriff said.
Two of the people who were wounded have not been identified by authorities, he said.
The surgeon is “cautiously optimistic” that Giffords “may survive,” Dupnik said.
Federal Judge John Roll went to Mass, as he did every Saturday, and on his way home decided to stop and say ‘hi’ to Giffords, his friend, Dupnik said.
“He was at the wrong place at the wrong time,” Dupnik said. He called Roll a brilliant judge and a fine person.
Dupnik called two people who tackled the gunman “were brave individuals, noting that the semi-automatic pistol still had ammunition when the gunman was taken into sheriff’s custody.
He said the gunman was a subject of, “some police interest in the recent past,” and he has made death threats in the past, but not toward Giffords. There was no reason to worry about the Giffords event in advance, he said. The attack started at 10:10 a.m. amid a crowd of about two dozen people.
The gunman might have planned to shoot himself, Dupnik told reporters.

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Asked by myame at 10:11 PM on Jan. 8, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff's Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.
    One year later, in October 2008, Loughner was charged with a "local charge" in Marana Municipal Court, that charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.
    Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It's unclear what the exact charge was.
    Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade.
    Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.
    "He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn't seem to care what people thought of him," Wiens said. "He did his own thing."

    Comment by myame (original poster) at 10:12 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • A former classmate of Loughner at Pima Community College said he was "obviously very disturbed."
    "He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts," said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College's Northwest campus.
    Sorenson doesn't recall if he ever made any threats or uttered political statements but he was very disruptive, she said. He was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class, said Sorenson, a Tucson resident.
    Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner's behavior stood out, Ali said.
    "It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about," Ali said.

    Comment by myame (original poster) at 10:14 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • I didn't think he was one sided... the right wants us to think that. He was deranged and a drug abuser. Arizona Gun laws should be taken into consideration too.

    Answer by Anonymous at 10:21 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • Anonymous, if he didn't have a gun, he would have used something else. I think this will come down to him being mentally sick. He may have used a car to kill or built a bomb. The gun didn't make him kill. His sick mind did.

    Comment by myame (original poster) at 10:25 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • And still he was able to buy a semi automatic gun? A post about the shooting put a link to his youtube videos they are just a rant with a lot of nonsense with stuff like : "if you can create a currency then you can create a second currency thereof you can control your grammar" and more stuff like that also saying stuff about mind control but its so redundant he was seriously crazy

    Answer by gou18 at 10:26 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • Perhaps, but the laws are too free there. People with sick minds shouldn't be able to buy guns. He's been a known "drug user" and had irrational outburts before. Do they not do background checks or can you buy guns at Walmart in AZ?

    Answer by Anonymous at 10:28 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • Anonymous he could buy a gun anywhere. Wal-Mart inventory and sales would not affect this scenario. Gun laws will not stop someone from buying a gun.


    Answer by zebbiebug at 10:31 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • Gun laws will not stop someone from buying a gun.

    This is very true. If someone is determined to buy a gun, they will buy a gun somewhere, probably NOT legally. Gun laws only affect people who are law abiding citizens. I very much believe in the statement "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns"

    Answer by DSamuels at 10:42 PM on Jan. 8, 2011

  • Nuts with guns scare me.ANd people who ownthem and tell us that there is no problem scare me too. Too many potential nuts out there, telling us we should be armed and shoot intruders. Ugh.

    Answer by kerp1960 at 12:21 AM on Jan. 9, 2011

  • This has got to be one of the most bizzar things i have ever heard about. For one senseless violence and for two have any of the readers of this new posting ever seen the movie Dejav wow becasue im watching it right now and the similarities between this real life event and Denzal movie are very close. A young man rejected by all branches of the military for mental health issues retalates on the gov. by killing civilians and wounding many with the intendend target being something political. Its just a shame we can go back in time and change the events that took place on this tradgic day like they do in the movie. Reading others comments it is horrible that we as a country take everything to a dem or rep angle im doubting a 22 years olded rejected guy could care less what party she was and what her platform is come on use your heads simplist answer is usally the right one. I think people need to take a step back .

    Answer by Whitney810 at 12:28 AM on Jan. 9, 2011

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