So the diagnosis of psychosis and schizophrenia has been officially brought up in the news reports on the shooter. His college expelled him over the summer, pending a psych exam. The army rejected him. He had a criminal history. At what point should someone be compelled to undergo a psych exam? Everyone keeps asking how and why the guy could get a gun - well, the reason is, he cannot be compelled to get the diagnosis unless a judge orders one. Until it comes to that point, it's his choice.
Even as Dupnik is on tv live right now backpedaling and talking about how this is a "disturbed individual" one of many. He has "no proof" that anything people have said has in any way influenced anyone, including Loughner. He also says it's a free country and he's not suggesting we do anything to tamper with free speech.
But what about mental health - should the community - the school, the Army, the people who were terrified to be in the same room with him back in June, have had some recourse to file a complaint with an agency like Adult Protective Services and had them investigate him?
I remember a few times the question has come up here about whether or not the mentally ill should have their access to the internet or other things restricted because they may become violent, and the answers were always no, that's not right. Is it really not right? If nothing else, when those videos hit You Tube, should someone have had a place to send the link and say, hey look at this, check into it?
Answer by older at 8:32 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Answer by Scuba at 8:37 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Sometimes even speaking up does no good. I grew up with someone who was unstable. imo Several people felt the same as I did. We did speak up. He had a couple ex girlfriends file restraining orders against him. Nobody would listen to anyone.
He was never ordered to be evaluated. He snapped one day and killed 7 family members. One of them his mother and one of them a 3 yr old niece of his. He was able to hide out in the woods for a while before he was caught.
This story goes on and on. The family, and several others, asked for him to be evaluated. Nothing was ever done until it was too late.
Answer by Anonymous at 8:41 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Answer by gemgem at 8:41 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Answer by rosiemendo at 8:44 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Dealt with this issue personally , The laws do not help. Someone who is NOT in their right mind should not be the one that can say yes I need help....Most times they dont know it...
Answer by sweet-a-kins at 8:45 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Answer by QuinnMae at 9:22 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
Answer by Anonymous at 9:37 AM on Jan. 10, 2011
I think that if he approached a government agency with the request to join (the military) then he most definitely should have been required to have the psych exam. Going to the government is one thing, having them come to you is another.
Answer by scout_mom at 9:39 AM on Jan. 10, 2011