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Who's fault is it?

MY ANSWER TO A RECENT JOURNAL:

As the daughter, sister, wife and mother of people I love with mental illnesses - WE ARE responsible if we are not doing all we can to get our loved one's help for their issues. It is so much easier to turn a blind eye - especially if we aren't related or in the circle with those with mental health problems. This MUST stop in order to have protection from "madmen/women" as MANY have stated "we will NEVER have..." The fact of the matter is that while this young man IS clearly at fault so are WE as a nation. We need to stop and do what we can to get mentally ill people REAL HELP. While that may or may not mean that we actually TAKE care of them, there are other things that CAN and SHOULD be done: Demand bette health care is a biggie. Demand that coverage is available to ALL people! Demand more awareness of mental health conditions. REMOVE the stigma associated with those with mental health issues. Most people that have mental health issues are unaware that they do. Those that DO know are afraid to seek help because people look at them differently (or so they feel). Help and encourage them that there is hope and help out there. Be willing to befriend them and stand up for them when others point fingers and make fun. The life of a person with a mental illness is a lonely, scary place. Let them know that SOMEONE cares! Stop looking at your self and how difficult it is to be around and care about their needs and realize that this person NEEDS your support and kindness in order to get the help they really need so this type of thing NEVER EVER happens again. 

Shame on us. WE failed this young man. His school and peers knew there was something wrong and what did they do? They turned a blind eye. THAT IS OUR FAULT. If someone you know or love is behaving irratically - don't desert them. You might as well help load the gun. GET THEM HELP. NOW.BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. AGAIN.

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Babylove76

Asked by Babylove76 at 6:43 PM on Jan. 10, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • While it is nice to be this idealistic, the reality is--we can not force individuals with mental illness to get help.
    They have the right to refuse treatment and to refuse medications.
    My mom's cousin is severely mentally ill. His parents tried everything to get him help, but he refused all attempts. He is now in prison for attempted murder. He nearly killed his own father because the voices in his head told him too.
    Even in prison, you can not force someone to take medications or seek treatment. He is refusing medications in prison as well.
    layh41407

    Answer by layh41407 at 6:46 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • I agree.....people don't want to get involved. They pretend everything will be alright. This guy was known to be paranoid and odd for years. He should have been examined. There should have been an intervention. DO you think he would physically over power people who want t take him to a clinic or psychiatric hospital? If so, then a few strong men with tranquilizers could have subdud him. Tnere HAS to be a way to keep these mentally ill people from losing control and killing .AND, with a diagnosis of a mental illness, he coud have been prevented from buying a gun!
    kerp1960

    Answer by kerp1960 at 6:51 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • whose fault.
    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 6:54 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • We cant blame any one but him im sorry. Yes he was mental obviously because only someone mental would do that. But they have the right to refuse help for their mental illness. Its a sad situation and I pray for all the families that they get through this terrible time.
    Jaxsmommy09

    Answer by Jaxsmommy09 at 6:57 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • There should have been an intervention. DO you think he would physically over power people who want t take him to a clinic or psychiatric hospital? If so, then a few strong men with tranquilizers could have subdud him
    ____________________
    This would have been a violation of his rights. You can not just tranquilize someone.
    layh41407

    Answer by layh41407 at 7:01 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • the reality is--we can not force individuals with mental illness to get help.


     The biggest caveat to mental illness is it generally requires a lifetime of continual treatment- compliance for that lengthof treatment is notoriously low. You can not force treatments on adults who are NOT committed. Since the 80s, fewer and fewer people have been committed (it's too expensive). These people have rights, especially as a marginalized group within society. Getting help is one thing, maintaining that treatment forever, is something altogether different.

    Sisteract

    Answer by Sisteract at 7:25 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • It s his right to continue walking free in the streets ....buy a gun....shoot people? That sucks. I don't think he or anyone has THAT kind of right.
    kerp1960

    Answer by kerp1960 at 7:40 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • Then tell me, Kerp, what would you have done? Forced him to see a doctor kicking and screaming? Slipped him meds without his knowledge? To do so would violate his civil rights, which is something everyone in this country has whether we like it or not. Even if he'd been getting treatment or at least had a diagnosis, it is up to him to maintain it.

    Journey311

    Answer by Journey311 at 8:36 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • Most of you are missing my point. Being helpfull and compassionate goes a long way to helping those with mental illnesses. I know. Been there - done that. I know it's not 100% fool proof but turning a blind eye and doing NOTHING is a 100% guarentee that something bad somewhere COULD and likely WOULD happen whether it's in public or at home where no one knows but those within their walls. We have to try. This guys former friends, classmates, teachers and neighbors all saw something.....and did NOTHING. What do you think they are thinking and feeling right now? I know I would be "what if I had tried to befriend him more - encouraged him to get help so he would feel better?"

    Babylove76

    Comment by Babylove76 (original poster) at 8:56 PM on Jan. 10, 2011

  • Go live in Germany, where everyone is equal and they all get along.
    Roadfamily6now

    Answer by Roadfamily6now at 3:31 PM on Jan. 11, 2011

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