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With Obama talking "Green Jobs".... How can America do it better?

After watching and reading the transcripts of the SOTU~ Obama placed a high emphasis on Green jobs. I was reminded of a report that was released just over a year ago regarding Spain's "green job" initiative. So, I ask:

 How do you think America can do it better?


"Every “green job” created with government money in Spain over the last eight years came at the cost of 2.2 regular jobs, and only one in 10 of the newly created green jobs became a permanent job, The study draws parallels with the green jobs programs of the Obama administration.

President Obama, in fact, has used Spain’s green initiative as a blueprint for how the United States should use federal funds to stimulate the economy. Obama’s economic stimulus package,which Congress passed in February, allocates billions of dollars to the green jobs industry.

But the author of the study, Dr. Gabriel Calzada, an economics professor at Juan Carlos University in Madrid, said the United States should expect results similar to those in Spain:

“Spain’s experience (cited by President Obama as a model) reveals with high confidence, by two different methods, that the U.S. should expect a loss of at least 2.2 jobs on average, or about 9 jobs lost for every 4 created, to which we have to add those jobs that non-subsidized investments with the same resources would have created,” wrote Calzada in his report: Study of the Effects on Employment of Public Aid to Renewable Energy Sources"

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Asked by grlygrlz2 at 3:35 PM on Jan. 28, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • Ohhhh, by the way, Spain's most recent Unemployment Rate: Above 20%


    Comment by grlygrlz2 (original poster) at 3:38 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • Honestly, i don't care what color the jobs are.

    I think "green" is just a marketing slogan.

    Answer by UpSheRises at 3:42 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • Technology decreases the need for HUMAN labor. Plus the US doesn't do anything cheaply. Cost effective is the name of the game- America has to become more cunning- and adjust our way of thinking. In this economy, maybe a B+ will have to be accepted IF the #s are balanced- We have "Gone for broke, for too long." Perhaps we no longer have the funding available to achieve A++++++++++++++.


    Answer by Sisteract at 3:45 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • So he wants to model "green jobs" programs after a country that has more than double our unemployment rate? Yeah, that would really help us out.................NOT!

    What will the brilliant minds in the gov't come up with next? Wait...I really don't want to know. I don't think I could take it.

    Answer by DSamuels at 4:01 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • How can America do it better?
    By relying on the old addage that Necessity is the Mother of all Invention.
    Specifically targeting a product to push on the people doesn't make it sell.
    Nor does gathering up scientists to sit in a room to come up with the next GPS. Which is what he said he wanted to do in the speech.
    Great products and needed services create jobs because of supply and demand, and necessity.
    Barry was high on the day this was lectured on in Bus Theo 101......oh wait.....The Jackass didn't take any business courses. silly me.
    And, doing business with China is ridiculous. China's trade agreements allow for technology sharing.......cont.....

    Answer by jewjewbee at 4:07 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • that means any product that we sell over there we are forced to give the state of China the information needed to make same product. That's right, make the same product in china cheaper by their workforce. Why would any resident of China buy a higher priced American made product? No patent laws and no privacy in the China business system. China has absolutely no reason to buy anything we make and we don't make very much anymore. The only way we can become a manufacturing nation again is to stop Chinese imports at the exit gate, and tax the shit out of it. The basic laws of supply and demand will create jobs in the US again.
    Green Jobs or not, they simply are not fitting into the law here. If nobody wants them they wont sell no matter how much Obama wants to push it or subsidize it. We need Jobs, any kind of Jobs, and the Green Job sector not only has a poor ROI it's not high in demand.

    Answer by jewjewbee at 4:13 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • His economic policy is designed to fail. Then he can revamp it into a socialist state.

    Answer by Carpy at 4:15 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • As of now, not quite 1% of our energy comes from wind and solar. What needs to happen is for people to realize we will NEVER be completely off of oil. Oil is as permanent to America as is air. I have no problem with green jobs if that's what you want to do. I don't think they need to be pushed by government or funded by government. This believing we have to replace oil is crazy. It's just raising the cost of living. The foolish ideas (like banning light bulbs) have caused more jobs lost than gained.
    As for China, Obama says they are surpassing us in green technology. I really don't have a clue but aside from the fact they do little driving and what driving they do is done in small cars he sees no evidence of "greening' anywhere he has been (3 times). They live in tiny apts and walk or ride a train not because they want to be green but because space is limited and thats all the gov. supplies them with.

    Answer by itsmesteph11 at 5:21 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • We drop the 'green' and just go with jobs.

    Answer by lovinangels at 8:12 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

  • I don't think that Spanish study proves anything . They have had success with ' green' jobs in Germany . it is not just about ' green ' jobs, the US should decrease its energy dependance on foreign oil is a call we often hear and any policy with that aim has to address the issue of renewable energy resources . No one is suggesting dependance on oil can be reduced quickly but with the US locked into global prices and now the inflationary effect of massive global speculation in commodities it is common sense to exp[loit alternative energy sources

    Answer by janet116 at 11:12 PM on Jan. 28, 2011

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