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Simple math

1000 people are paid $40k/yr. Funds are tight so there are 2 possible solutions - all 1000 people take 1 unpaid day per month, resulting in a loss of about $1900 per person in income for the year, or 50 people lose their jobs completely (in other words, a loss of $40k/yr). There is no guarantee which of the 1000 people will be among the 50, and no matter which 50 they are, their absence will guarantee an increased work load without increased compensation for the people who stay.

Why is it, when presented with this scenario time and time again, the union always backs the option of firing people and worsening working conditions for everyone else rather than the option that is best for ALL the people they represent?

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NotPanicking

Asked by NotPanicking at 9:35 AM on Feb. 22, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • This is my husband's favorite talking point also.
    they are so willing to screw each other, and they remain OK with it year after year.
    Greedy Bastards IMO
    jewjewbee

    Answer by jewjewbee at 9:38 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • rather than the option that is best for ALL the people they represent?

    **
    And this is why unions were created to begin with. IRONIC isn't it??
    jewjewbee

    Answer by jewjewbee at 9:39 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • In my understanding, a union never supports the option of reduced wage or benefit even when it works out as better for many. It's just their philosophy. When they choose this way of doing things, it's not a surprise that they get a bad reputation.
    Nonoluna

    Answer by Nonoluna at 9:40 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • That's what they did to AAR employees in Cadillac. 300 peoplelost their job because the Gov wanted them to take a paycut. They are a gov provider.
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 9:42 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • Well that just can't be! We are told repeatedly here by union supporters that unions are for the employees! They couldn't possibly do anything to negatively effect any of the people the represent, could they? If so, this is a very inconvenient truth. (btw, most of that is sarcasm).

    QuinnMae

    Answer by QuinnMae at 9:45 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • For whatever reason, the Unions at the national level are pandering to the lowest rather than looking at the big picture- They have lost touch with what they are all about- The teachers union was originally put together not only to protect us and our working conditions but to be a national coalition for professional development and a catalyst for best practices- not sure how we lost sight of that.
    soyousay

    Answer by soyousay at 9:50 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • not sure how we lost sight of that.
    **
    they put money and politics into it.
    seems simple enough
    if your greased politician gets elected, your unions get what you want.
    Higher salaries and freebies for life.
    jewjewbee

    Answer by jewjewbee at 9:55 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • JewJew- I mean "we" as in at the local level- we need to stand up and say-hey, this is not working- for the record- gone are the days of high salaries and freebies for life for teachers- that ended oh, about 5 years ago- those that are left do not have cushy pay and benefits- my total package is not nearly as good as my non-union husband- also- the highest paid- admin and above are not Union- Admin has it way better than the teachers-
    soyousay

    Answer by soyousay at 10:00 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • Aren't teachers off for at least 8 weeks a year plus off for the Winter Solstice, Saturnalia, Kwanza, etc.,.?

    They seem a little greedy and vacationy to me to be griping so hard.
    mustbeGRACE

    Answer by mustbeGRACE at 10:19 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

  • when I say " you " I mean that collectively.
    jewjewbee

    Answer by jewjewbee at 10:28 AM on Feb. 22, 2011

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