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New tougher physical standards for the Army, thoughts?

FORT JACKSON, S.C. - The Army plans to toughen its fitness tests for the first time in 30 years to make sure all soldiers have the strength, endurance and mobility for battle, adding exercises like running an obstacle course in full combat gear and dragging a body's weight.

Officials at Fort Jackson, a major Army training center, said Tuesday the new regimen would replace twice-a-year testing that focused on push-ups, sit-ups and a two-mile run. Trials are starting this month at eight bases and the plan could be adopted Army-wide after reviews later this year.

The shift follows other Army efforts to overhaul training, improve diets and help older soldiers keep fit.

Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, the head of Army training, said the fitness test had to be revamped because repetitive exercises like sit-ups don't translate into survival on the battlefield.

Unveiling the pilot to reporters, he said the service was also adopting lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans who had to learn in the field to carry anywhere from 40 to 70 pounds of weapons and body armor.

"Soldiers like to be challenged. This will definitely challenge them," Hertling said. "This is a good, combat-related test."

The pilot program comprises two new tests in place of the current exam.

The new "physical readiness" test adds such things as a 60-yard shuttle run and a standing long jump to one minute of push-ups and a 1.5-mile timed run. This might be given every six months, said Frank Palkoska, head of the Army's Fitness School at Fort Jackson.

A "combat readiness" test includes running 400 meters with a rifle, moving through an obstacle course in full combat gear, and crawling and vaulting over obstacles while aiming a rifle. Soldiers also have to run on a balance beam while carrying a 30-pound ammo box and do an agility sprint around a course field of cones.

To test pulling a fallen comrade from the battlefield, soldiers must drag a sled weighted with 180 pounds of sandbags. That combat portion of the test might be given only before deployments, but that has not been decided.

The tests will be given to all soldiers and officers, including Army Reserves and National Guard, even those recalled soldiers who are now 60-years plus, officials said.

Specific standards for men, women and by age ranges are still being worked out, Palkoska said.

"This is about training smarter, not just training more," said Hertling.

The pilot will begin this month and test data will be given to Army leaders by October. The program could be implemented Army-wide during the fiscal year that starts in October, Palkoska said.

Besides Fort Jackson, the program will be tested at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo.; Fort Benning, Ga.; Fort Sill, Okla.; Fort Bliss, Texas; Fort Bragg, N.C.; Fort Lewis, Wash.; and at the Army's military academy at West Point.

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sweet-a-kins

Asked by sweet-a-kins at 2:49 PM on Mar. 1, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • Guess that's a good way to keep enlistment low. Just what Obama wants
    itsmesteph11

    Answer by itsmesteph11 at 2:52 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • "It is not yet known when or how often the tests will be given, but one possibility is that the readiness test could be given twice a year and the combat test could be done right before soldiers deploy, Army officials said on Tuesday at Fort Jackson."


    Looks good to me....

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:55 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • Also, the new standards aren't in full force implementation,


    "For the next six months, the Army will conduct a pilot study involving between 7,000 and 10,000 soldiers in the United States and possibly Europe to determine what scores soldiers need to score on the tests, Hertling said."


    I think this will be a better discussion AFTER the pilot study has been conducted and there is data to analyze and discuss...

    grlygrlz2

    Answer by grlygrlz2 at 2:58 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • The tests will be given to all soldiers and officers, including Army Reserves and National Guard, even those recalled soldiers who are now 60-years plus, officials said.

    Specific standards for men, women and by age ranges are still being worked out, Palkoska said.

    "This is about training smarter, not just training more," said Hertling.

    Something like this should have been done as they were recalling soldiers that havent been in for years....for safety reasons...sounds like a good move

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 3:01 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • Sounds good to me. I guess we'll see after they've tested it out.
    DusterMommy

    Answer by DusterMommy at 3:03 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • My dad was Army for a lot of years... he got tested once a year. I knew when it was coming because the cans of slimfast came home. Now that he's retired, he's really fat. It makes sense to make sure that people will be able to complete their duties- I'm wondering how long it will be before someone says they are discriminating, though.
    lovinangels

    Answer by lovinangels at 3:07 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • "Guess that's a good way to keep enlistment low."

    Who needs anything more than fear of death to stay out? It seems to me the idea is to get soldiers in better shape so they DON'T die.
    gdiamante

    Answer by gdiamante at 3:09 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

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    My dad was Army for a lot of years... he got tested once a year. I knew when it was coming because the cans of slimfast came home. Now that he's retired, he's really fat. It makes sense to make sure that people will be able to complete their duties- I'm wondering how long it will be before someone says they are discriminating, though.

    As seen with DADT, the military doesn't care about that!

    but they do need to be physically ready .....

    sweet-a-kins

    Comment by sweet-a-kins (original poster) at 3:10 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • Don't they have to do most of this stuff already? A timed 1.5 miles? Not 15, but 1.5? In terms of newbies, the higher age cut off is fairly low, right? Like 30-35? If they're adjusting parameters for gender, I'm sure there will be an age adjustment as well.

    Sisteract

    Answer by Sisteract at 3:15 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

  • Sounds good to me as well. There are a lot of idiots in the military. I went to college with a girl over 200 lbs that was in the Army and just couldn't even climb the stairs to get to the 2nd level of our school. She always had to take the elevator because the stairs were to much for her.
    mommy_of_two388

    Answer by mommy_of_two388 at 3:16 PM on Mar. 1, 2011

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