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Should a parent CHOOSE to be a SAHM if they are on government assistance?

Scenario: Single mother gets on welfare in 2005 (food stamps, medicaid, govt assisted living). Mother has a degree in Graphic Design and went to school (but didn't get a degree) for teacher. Father provides child support and pays all extras, medical and dental (including insurance, copays, and uncovered expenses). 2009 Mother is still on all of assistance, choosing to work only 2 days a week during the school year instead of getting a full time job, giving her an income of less than $7000/year. Mother continues to get public assistance claiming "she cannot afford to provide for herself and the child" in Court paperwork. Mother marries her fiance in 2009. Mother then gets pregnant in 2010 and recently quit working before baby was due (not temporarily-PERMANENTLY quit). Husband's income is not enough to support the household. Mother MAY be contemplating asking the Courts to increase the child support she receives from her first child's father due to her new child. Should the mother be able to CHOOSE not to work and remain on assistance, and increase the support paid by the father of her first child? Or should she be forced to get a job and help provide for her children? She has no disabilities or health issues that would prevent her from working.

P.S. This is NOT me. lol

 
Anonymous

Asked by Anonymous at 3:23 AM on Mar. 23, 2011 in Money & Work

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Answers (13)
  • Well, if she is now married to the second baby's dad, does he have a job?  Their combined household income should have kicked her off welfare.  Also, no judge is going to raise a man's child support so he can pay for someone else's child.  If she is no longer with the second man she needs to sue him for child support.  Honestly, to answer your main question - NO.  To me this is welfare fraud.  She CAN work, but she WON'T work.  Graphic design is a job she could do from home, if she weren't so happy letting others take care of her.

    scout_mom

    Answer by scout_mom at 6:17 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • That's exactly why people have all these preconceived notions about those of us getting assistance.
    Nicoles2LilRams

    Answer by Nicoles2LilRams at 7:17 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • this is a good example of someone sauking up the system. They give people who DO need assistance a bad rep
    joanie70

    Answer by joanie70 at 6:53 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • In the state they deal with, the child support CAN increase if a custodial parent has another child (but cannot decrease if the noncustodial parent has additional children), which I think is bullcrap, since the additional children aren't "mutual" children.

    I agree that it's fraud. She's been turned in for it, but they did nothing except try to increase the support from the ex husband (the ex husband being my husband--I'm the second wife, not the one who is pulling all this crap).
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 6:28 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • What state are you dealing with? That's crazy!
    scout_mom

    Answer by scout_mom at 7:07 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • It's MI...

    I agree that it is disgusting. She got the assistance the first 4 years for not claiming the child support as income. When my DH turned her in (anonymously), all they did was reduce her benefits and go after him for child support (they didn't do their research and find that he already had a child support order in place through the state we used to live in and he was NEVER late, so they did a review and realized that he pays MORE than what would be ordered, so they didn't touch it).
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 8:27 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • Wonder if she has health issues,and she hasn't told anyone? Doesn't seem right that someone would have such a nice degree and spend all that time in school just to sit around. Somethings up.
    MarGeee

    Answer by MarGeee at 9:36 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • No, nothing's up...She just doesn't want to work. She didn't work even when they were together (before, during, or after the marriage).
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 9:42 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • Not sure why people are so concerned with other peoples business, if it's not you then don't worry about it. And she can not get her first childs father to pay support simply because she has another child that is bull crap!! ALSO.. in order to be on assistance AND receive CASH she needs to complete several things, a job course is one of them. She can not CHOOSE just to kick back &remain on assistance and do nothing if she gets cash. Also, everyone on assistance is allowed so much time on assistance where they do not have to attend classes or school either when they are pregnant or after having a baby they can use that time as they wish but once its gone its gone, doesn't matter how many kids they have, it's like 12mths a liftetime or something. I think it is SOOO sad that EVERYONE can go so crazy over something they have noooo facts on AT ALL.. There is plenty on here to gossip about, choose something that you know about!
    JenzAmomOf2

    Answer by JenzAmomOf2 at 9:48 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

  • JenzAmomOf2--I DO know the situation, as it is the situation that my SD's mother is in. And she DOES choose to not work. She just quit her job--a job that she only worked 2 days a week at. And she doesn't receive cash. And she didn't quit for the recovery period, she just plain quit working, as in, told DH that she was no longer going to be working.

    And, yes, the state law does allow her to increase her child support for an additional child, as she would get a deduction out of her base pay for an additional child (of approx $300 per month, and her claimed monthly income was just over $500, so her income for child support calculations would be just over 200), whereas a noncustodial parent's deduction is very small for additional children (as in, we have 3 together, and my DH would get roughly the same deduction from his income for all 3 that his ex gets for one).
    Anonymous

    Comment by Anonymous (original poster) at 10:32 AM on Mar. 23, 2011

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