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Kaiser-Permanente Death Edict for Senior Citizen Cancer Sufferer

The dreaded death panel practices for senior citizens in government-funded Medicare programs is already hereā€”and condemning people to death. The following is one ongoing example with a vulnerable senior citizen being condemned to death by refusal to perform diagnostic tests (statement that they aren't done for people of advance age); threats of dire consequences if industry-accepted surgical treatment is requested, delays in palliative treatment, and spreading cancer. This, episode is occurring at the Kaiser Permanent offices in Walnut Creek, California, and being carried out with the full knowledge of the organization's executive officers at Oakland, California.

For a period of over one year, diagnostic tests, standard for the symptoms being reported, were denied, even though both of his parents died of cancer. Kaiser Permanent physicians stated diagnostic tests for the symptoms were not given to government health plan members at that age. Then, after going out of the Kaiser Permanente network and obtaining the diagnostic test elsewhere, that showed advance Stage 3 kidney cancer (that had progressed because of the money-saving efforts of Kaiser physicians), Kaiser physicians portrayed grave consequences if the member choose surgery, and then promised prompt other treatment, which never came.

The patient is a well-known person throughout the United States exposing major corruption of key people in various government operations, the financial field sector, and also the medical, profession. This denial of industry-standard medical care, bringing on an early death, pleases those that his efforts have been exposing for years.

The existing culture that follows could affect you, your wife or husband, or your mother and father, either as a member of Kaiser-Permanente, or another plan that may use the same tactics.

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/kaiser_permanente.html

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mrssundin

Asked by mrssundin at 10:30 AM on Jun. 5, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • If this health bill is not repealed, we will see much more of this. Medicare/medicaid does not pay hardly anything to doctors and such. The health bill does the same. It also makes a doctor treat a patient that works best for most. In other words say penicillan works best for the flu for the majority of people. That's what you will get. If it doesn't work, too bad. And if you're allergic, too bad. It eliminates second opinions. Doctors are not God, so the lawmakers can't be either. And believe it or not, although our bodies are set up about the same, not everything works the same on everybody. That's why you hear of people with chemicals deficiencies and such. For shame these people are doing this out of greed. It's just the same as murder. Hopefully they will be shut down.
    attap5

    Answer by attap5 at 10:37 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Is this a conspiracry theory?
    minnesotanice

    Answer by minnesotanice at 10:56 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Bullshit. It has nothing to do with the government. This is just typical Kaiser. nothing more.

    Anonymous

    Answer by Anonymous at 10:58 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • I do think that medical care will have to become increasingly limited if the government continues to take control of the industry. That being said, I can't take this article as evidence of said control. There are too many key facts missing - names, the ages of the patient and his/her parents (upon their deaths), etc. and too many irrelevant facts included.
    TikiWiki33

    Answer by TikiWiki33 at 10:59 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Yes minnsotanice every thing posted in this section is a conspiracy theory in your eyes. read the link that is why i posted it.
    mrssundin

    Comment by mrssundin (original poster) at 11:05 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • The patient is a well-known person throughout the United States.....


    I wish they could tell the name of the 'well-known person'. It would give credibillity to this story. It would give us a chance to find out if this is true just a compilation of cases. That being said, I do believe that the regulations imposed by PBO-care will put undue hardship on patients, providers, and insurers to meet those regulations. Now that the bill is law, they can control medicine from within the law in the form of regulations without the approval of Congress. This is what worries me the most. This administrations circumventing of the Congress to get his vision pushed upon us. He uses regulations. Congress is left out. 

    jesse123456

    Answer by jesse123456 at 11:24 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • This is what happens in a secular society ... since the belief that we are all accidental products of chaos in a purposeless existence, our value for human life is seriously down graded. Suddenly the loss of money is more important than the loss of life. (Which is even more unfortunate because the gov't really doesn't have the money to promote quality of life.)
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 11:24 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • And for the record, this doesn't surprise me about Kaiser ... when I lived in California, a co-workers daughter had a miscarriage and Kaiser refused to do the D&C ... they forced her to carry her dead baby to term and deliver it.
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 11:26 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • I think it is awful. Here in Oregon they just offer the lower income people euthanasia...the pill is free. It is unrealistic to think you can offer the best care available to everone for any health concern. Just look what non-emergency things have done to hospitals. Our hospital has to write off between 3 and 5 million dollars of such care every year. People need to take responsiblity for the smal things..sinus infections, sore throats..sniffles. Many doctors offices offer a low cost cash price for these simple visits..my doctor..$30. It would free up govt. money for the serious stuff.
    yourspecialkid

    Answer by yourspecialkid at 11:54 AM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • That kind of thing has been going on for years & years. Insurance companies won't authorise some things due to cost, etc. so the patient either has to come up with the funds on their own or do without the medical care. Usually it's not news because the patient is just an average person. There have been hundreds of thousands of cases where insurance refused to cover a treatment & when the family could no longer obtain loans, had nothing left to sell & were bankrupt, which meant no more treatment, the patient died regardless of the patients age. Same thing when all available insurance funds are used up. There are a lot of people who suffer from what are called "orphan" diseases for which treatments, cures, etc. aren't explored because not enough suffer from it to make doing so profitable. Medicine is BIG business. It's not about the Gov., it's about the high & always rising cost of health care.
    meriana

    Answer by meriana at 12:22 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

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