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Confused on dates of birth of jesus census and herod death?

I am not a historywiz so i may be wrong but i think this is how it goes.

Jesus was born?? Who knows 4-6 BC. First question if time is b.c. and ad wouldn't Jesus be born 0 a.d. since its before christ/ after christ?

Herod dies in 4b.c. now i can not find an out side source that says his massacre of children happened outside of the bible.

Quirinius was appointed governor ( legate) of Syria in 6 a.d so wouldn't jesus have been way over two if this census and massacre ever happened?

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whitenena

Asked by whitenena at 6:25 PM on Jun. 5, 2011 in Religious Debate

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  • That's because there IS no outside evidence for the massacre outside the account in the Bible-  which by the way was written 80 years AFTER it supposedly happened, so THAT is hearsay and not valid evidence.

    IhartU

    Answer by IhartU at 6:30 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Theres more i have questions about the bible but i want to stay on this topic for now lol im sure later on or tomorrow ill have my next one up.
    whitenena

    Comment by whitenena (original poster) at 6:33 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • The best guess of most Biblical scholars is that Jesus was born between 4 and 7 BCE.
    azhlynne

    Answer by azhlynne at 6:39 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Kuke 2:In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2(This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3And everyone went to his own town to register.

    Quirinius wasnt governor until 6 AD If jesus was born 4-7 BCE his age doesnt add up to Herod even having a masacre because mary and joseph wouldnt have even went to bethlehem until after herods death in 4BCE.
    whitenena

    Comment by whitenena (original poster) at 7:06 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • I think the person that originally calculated the date of Jesus' birth made a mistake, and when it was recalculated, it came out as 4-6 B.C.
    tinamatt

    Answer by tinamatt at 7:24 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Quirinius wasnt governor until 6 AD If jesus was born 4-7 BCE his age doesnt add up to Herod even having a masacre because mary and joseph wouldnt have even went to bethlehem until after herods death in 4BCE.

    It's one of those questions you aren't supposed to ask.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 7:30 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Considering that the evidence for Jesus ever living at all is pretty slim, it's no wonder they can't agree on his birth year.
    kit_manson

    Answer by kit_manson at 7:51 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • Outside the Scripture, ancient records tie Quirinius to a census only in A.D.6, but this is too late to be the one referred to here. So it may be that the census spanned the period from Varus to Quirinius and was referred to by the name of the one who completed it, sometime in the period immediately following Herod's death. It's also possible that Quirinius served as governor twice in his career, since there is a gap in the governorship records between 4 B.C. and A.D. 1, the period between Varus and Gaius Caesar.----taken from footnote of the NIV Study Bible.

    popzaroo

    Answer by popzaroo at 8:03 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • (from the ESV Study Bible) Luke 2:2 the first registration when Quirinius was governor. According to Josephus, Quirinius was governor of Syria a.d. 6–7 and conducted a census in a.d. 6 (which Luke is aware of and mentions in Acts 5:37). But this cannot be the census Luke is referencing here, since it occurred after the death of Herod the Great in 4 b.c., and it is known that Jesus was born during Herod's reign (cf. Matt. 2:1; Luke 1:5). Various plausible solutions have been proposed. Some interpreters believe that because “governor” (participle of Gk. hēgemoneuō) was a very general term for “ruler,” it may be that Quirinius was the administrator of the census, but not the governor proper. Another solution is to translate the verse, “This was the registration before Quirinius was governor of Syria” (see esv footnote) .....
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 10:50 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

  • ....which is grammatically possible (taking Gk. prōtos as “before” rather than “first”; the Greek construction is somewhat unusual on any reading). This would make sense because Luke would then be clarifying that this was before the well-known, troublesome census of a.d. 6 (Acts 5:37). (One additional proposal is that Quirinius was governor for two separate terms, though this lacks confirming historical evidence.) Though the year cannot be determined with complete certainty, there are several reasonable possibilities which correspond well to Luke's carefully researched investigation (Luke 1:3–4) and to the historical and geographical accuracy evidenced throughout Luke and Acts. The most reasonable date is late in the year of 6 b.c. or early 5. See further The Date of Jesus' Crucifixion."
    -Eilish-

    Answer by -Eilish- at 10:51 PM on Jun. 5, 2011

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