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ELECTRIC CARS could produce HIGHER EMISSIONS over their lifetimes than petrol equivalents because of the energy consumed in making their batteries? Say it isn't so? What do you think?

An electric car owner would have to drive at least 129,000km(80,000 miles) before producing a net saving in CO2. Many electric cars will not travel that far in their lifetime because they typically have a range of less than 145km on a single charge and are unsuitable for long trips. Even those driven 160,000km would save only about a tonne of CO2 over their lifetimes.

The British study, which is the first analysis of the full lifetime emissions of electric cars covering manufacturing, driving and disposal, undermines the case for tackling climate change by the rapid introduction of electric cars.

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grlygrlz2

Asked by grlygrlz2 at 4:53 PM on Jun. 13, 2011 in Politics & Current Events

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  • And that's not even considering the disposal of those batteries. Stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.

    QuinnMae

    Answer by QuinnMae at 4:57 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • Doesn't surprise me a bit! The environmental crowd seems to demonize one thing, put something "wonderful" in its place and THEN do the research to see if it actually will save or help the planet.

    Why oh why can't they do complete research first?
    DSamuels

    Answer by DSamuels at 4:57 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • Shhhh, you're not supposed to notice that. If you're ever too happy and need a good downer, check out the completely uninhabitable region on an aerial map of Sudbury, Ontario. Nickel mining poisoned the very ground, no plants, no animals, no people who ever want a black Over the Hill cake before they die. But at least they got some batteries out of it for a few years, and that was good for the environment, so it was ok.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 4:58 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • Not a bit of a surprise. The elec car will bomb out in time.
    Carpy

    Answer by Carpy at 5:00 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • Not a bit of a surprise. The elec car will bomb out in time.


     


    Hubby calls it the drivable BETAMAX... ;o)

    grlygrlz2

    Comment by grlygrlz2 (original poster) at 5:02 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • The elec car will bomb out in time.

    No, they can be done correctly. Not many companies bother. Pretty much if it says "hybrid" or the name of a major automaker on it, they're doing it wrong. Pure electrics where everything is done sustainably and locally would work, same with hydro.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 5:03 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • No, they can be done correctly. Not many companies bother. Pretty much if it says "hybrid" or the name of a major automaker on it, they're doing it wrong. Pure electrics where everything is done sustainably and locally would work, same with hydro


    How about a Natural gas alternative? Wouldn't that be more affordable and more effective?

    grlygrlz2

    Comment by grlygrlz2 (original poster) at 5:06 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • If this is correct , then surely it depends on how the energy is generated in making the batteries and also a carbon-cost assessment of the energy used to extract, transport , refine and distribute gasoline . Also he technology for electric power generation and battery development is advancing quickly whereas the internal combustion engine seems to have reached its limits in terms of improved fuel efficiency . Modern cars are still no more fuel efficient than the old model T Ford .
    janet116

    Answer by janet116 at 5:06 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • How about a Natural gas alternative?

    Short term, but it's still finite. The issue for most people has jack to do with emissions, only the far out whackjobs are REALLY buying a car for that - they're buying it for mileage and cost, and if they're lucky, they can show the Joneses how green they're being at the same time. Natural gas wouldn't stay competitive for long, because it has the same barriers as petroleum - all the permits and EPA red tape that stand between getting the gas from the ground to a consumer. 1000 bureaucrats and congressmen with their hands out along the way looking for quid pro quo doesn't help. Before you know it, the cost to fill would be as bad (or worse) as what we see now.
    NotPanicking

    Answer by NotPanicking at 5:10 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

  • Also he technology for electric power generation and battery development is advancing quickly whereas the internal combustion engine seems to have reached its limits in terms of improved fuel efficiency


    But the cost issue... Current price of a new electric battery? approx $10,000. Do you know how many times over one could rebuild an internal combustion engine for this price?  Current sales of electric cars are not near the levels to bring down cost.  And with studies like this entering into the 'debate', it brings more questions... Less definite answers...

    grlygrlz2

    Comment by grlygrlz2 (original poster) at 5:11 PM on Jun. 13, 2011

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