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That's what happened to my younger sister (21). She thought she found a great car for a great deal on craigslist, but through e-bay. Did it sound to good to be true: sure. I knew something my mom said sounded off, but I assumed that she did her research.

I was wrong, my sister is out $2,000 money she has been saving from her 2 jobs and the only thing she can do since it was international is file a complaint with the FBI.


I just feel so bad for her..

by on Jul. 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM
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luckysevenwow
by Platinum Member on Jul. 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM

You do have to be carefull. I ordered a camera and am completley happy about my purchase but I did a lot of research about the company before I mad the purchase.

Quoting Barabell:

That's really sad.

I've seen warning on eBay's website warning of car scams, but I've never heard of a fake eBay site before.

I'm still weary of buying things off eBay. My sister ordered some DVDs off of a seller on eBay that ended up being clearly counterfeit when she received them, and eBay didn't respond to the complaints she made to them about it.


luckysevenwow
by Platinum Member on Jul. 13, 2012 at 4:43 PM

You can, and it's done a lot. Most people have no problem, I thought the same thing about the shipping but I think sometimes it is offset buy the price that the person is asking. I know people use it for vinatage type cars and sometimes even locally since that is an option.

This is the story my sister was told. The lady selling the car moved to Alaska for a job. She had expected to be gone for a year but has now been there for a little over 2 years and just wanted to get the car sold. It had been sitting in storage and she was tired of paying the storage fee's. The shipping cost was going to be waved because someone else had tried to purchase it but their finacing fell through, and what he had already given her was non-refundable. So she would just use that money to cover the shipping cost since she really just wanted the car gone.

Quoting annie2244:

You can buy a CAR on ebay? How does that work - they deliver it somehow? Wouldn't deliver costs be ridiculously high for something that big - high enough to offset any price deal one is getting?

And car price can only be determined to be a deal if one has your own mechanic check the car out.


atlmom2
by Susie on Jul. 13, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Never ever buy a car online! Very sad.
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PurpleHazey
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM

This happens so often you think there would be strict laws.

PurpleHazey
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 7:12 PM


Quoting atlmom2:

Never ever buy a car online! Very sad.

I agree.

FindersKeepers
by on Jul. 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM
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OMG!   There are so many warnings about not buying a car off Craigslist unless they are local and you have double checked everything.   Even when we sold a vehicle on Craigslist we did the entire exchange IN the bank so that everything went through.  

So sorry for your sister.   Sadly an expensive lessen learned.  = (

Maybe start a question on here for 'Were you ever scammed?"  You will get some answers you can share with sis so she knows she isn't alone.  It has happened to most of us when we were younger.

annie2244
by Silver Member on Jul. 15, 2012 at 9:08 PM
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Better than her feeling not alone by hearing other scam victims, would be learning tips to not get scammed.

There's no way I'd buy a car without getting it inspected by my mechanic first and checking the VIN history. I never buy from someone who hasn't sold a ton of items and has a 99% approval rating. And I pay with credit card so I can dispute the charge after the fact. And if the item is markedly lower than everyone else's price, I back away. Our kids have purchased stuff with our help on line, we go through all our thinking process with them so they learn to be skeptical.


How to Buy Online Without Getting Scammed

Tips for Buying on Ebay and Other Sites

Internet auction - basics

  • Get to know the rules and standards set by the site - they are in place to ensure user safety. Read the safety advice provided by the on line auction site before trading. Never step outside of these or outside of the site no matter how enticing the deal. Fraudsters will try to trick you into doing this. Like any popular activity you must ensure you know ‘the rules of the game’ because ‘A little knowledge is a dangerous thing’.
  • When looking at an advertised item compare pricing. Beware of people offering you a deal below the current bid or reserve price, especially if they are contacting you direct. Remember ‘If an offer sounds too good to be true it probably is’.
  • Get to know the seller by looking at their selling history and the goods they sale. Be extremely careful around the payment method used for persons selling with little or no selling history.
  • Don't get carried away in the excitement of winning an auction. Fraudsters rely on you being over keen and off your guard. It is never too late to ask questions of a seller to ensure that you are completely happy with what you are about to pay for. Do not follow through if you think it is a fraud, report the seller to the site.
  • Finally, if your site offers ‘second chance’ bidding on an auction verify that any notification of you qualifying for this ‘opportunity’ actually comes from the site and not from a fraudster impersonating them. You can do this by carefully checking the address from which the e-mail is sent or by contacting the site via its published website (Beware of using any hyperlinks or numbers attached to such a ‘notification’ as these may also be false).
  • "Always ask yourself, have I won the item, or have they won their next victim?"

Internet auction – payment

Buyer:

  • Never use Western Union, MoneyGram and other money transfers as a payment method whenever someone suggests this to you, even if it is by the seller after you have ‘won’ the auctioned item or when approached to step outside the on line auction site. There is little security in this, no matter what the seller says, and you are effectively sending your hard earned cash to a stranger ‘on trust’ alone. See our Money transfer pages for further information.
  • PayPal: Similarly, only use PayPal for small transaction: If you use PayPal to wire money to the seller, you cannot get it back. PayPal is not an escrow service. They just instantly wire the money into the seller's checking account. Once the scammer seller gets the money, the scammers close the checking account, so PayPal could not get the money back even if they wanted to.
  • Trick lines: Scam artists pretending to be legitimate sellers use a number of tricks to get potential buyers to wire them cash. A typical one is the “second chance offer” to losing bidders. The fraudster wants to “lure” the losing bidder off the auction site in an attempt to get him or her to wire funds. The scammer sends a message that claims to be from the auction site telling the buyer to wire payment. It looks real, but it’s a fake.

    Other trick lines that investigators have seen to get unsuspecting buyers to wire funds:

    “Our credit card account (online payment service) is having technical difficulties.”
    “We’ve had problems in the past with buyers who pay with online payment services.” 
    “We’ll provide insurance for your wire transfer.”
    “We’ll pay the fee for the wire transfer.”


  • Direct banking transactions: Being extremely careful around direct banking transactions to pay for goods. There is still little security in this area also, which increases if the seller has no or little trading history with the on line auction site you are using. You are still effectively still sending your hard earned cash to a stranger ‘on trust’ alone. There have been instances where people have sent money to bank accounts and not received the goods. This has been more prevalent when dealing with people with no or little trading history on the auction site as a seller.
  • Payment options: Successful bidders have many payment options to choose from when using Internet auction sites. Credit cards and online payment services (they often accept credit card payments) are safest. Other options include debit cards, personal checks, cashier’s checks, money orders, or escrow services. Some sellers limit the types of payment they accept; many post that information on their auction listings.
    As a rule, credit cards offer buyers the best protections. Online payment services offer some protections; look for them in the terms and conditions section of their websites. High volume sellers often accept credit cards directly, but don’t count on many small-scale sellers to send an item until they’ve received your cashier’s check or money order.
  • Escrow: Use on the online payment options or a reputable ESCROW account to pay for items. ESCROW is a payment system where both buyer and seller’s financial details are held separately and in isolation by a legitimate third party company acting as ‘middleman’. The buyer makes their payment into the Escrow account. The payment is only made to the seller the goods have arrived and been deemed satisfactory by the buyer. By doing so your transactions will be better protected and often insured. Never enter an Escrow account site through a link in an email sent to you by anyone, as it has not been unknown for fraudsters to set up fake Escrow websites. Use a search engine to locate the website or enter your chosen Escrow site through it’s proper web address. Always check the url shown in your web browser address bar. See this page for tips on how to select an escrow service.
  • Avoid dealing with sellers who end auctions early, yet continue to strike a deal with you via email. Remember, you are now outside the protection of eBay and it's internal escrow. You should always be suspicious when a seller ends an auction early. There's no legitimate reason to.
  • If you're buying a used car, email the seller for a VIN#. If you don't hear back from him, it's a fraud. Some scammers do actually respond back with VIN#s though, probably copied from another online ad, so still be careful. Use a service like CarFaqs to check it out.
  • If the seller changes email addresses on you, stop dealing with him. He probably changed because either we, or another victim reported their previous email, and had their email account shut down. They will make up some virus excuse.
boys2men2soon
by Kimberly on Jul. 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Aww....your poor sister.    It is a hard lesson to learn.   If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.  

luckysevenwow
by Platinum Member on Jul. 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM

It would appear that my sister wasn't giving my mom the full information. I guess had my mom knew the whole story she would have stopped my sister...but at 21, they want to do it all.

Quoting annie2244:

Better than her feeling not alone by hearing other scam victims, would be learning tips to not get scammed.

There's no way I'd buy a car without getting it inspected by my mechanic first and checking the VIN history. I never buy from someone who hasn't sold a ton of items and has a 99% approval rating. And I pay with credit card so I can dispute the charge after the fact. And if the item is markedly lower than everyone else's price, I back away. Our kids have purchased stuff with our help on line, we go through all our thinking process with them so they learn to be skeptical.



luckysevenwow
by Platinum Member on Jul. 15, 2012 at 11:27 PM

But we always hope that it is exactly what it appears. She did learn something important. At least she's young, and not learning it later in life with more at stake.

Quoting boys2men2soon:

Aww....your poor sister.    It is a hard lesson to learn.   If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.  


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