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National Guard school benefits?? Not happy with the outcome!!

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My son is in the National Guard and at the time of signing up he was offered a lot of good stuff. He even received a symbolic check for $40,000 for school. Then when he decided to go to school, reality and true colors came out. He did not qualified for G.I. bill post 911 after he was told that he would. Now he only qualifies for for Montgomery G.I Bill. I don't consider this fair, the recruiters pushed so much for him to sign in and me to sign papers. This is the way he was paid, I'm not happy for turning over my son to the military and they pay him this way. Not fair at all!! Has any body else been thru this situation? Please let me know. Thank you!!

by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 2:09 PM
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JerseyAirGurl
by Ada on Oct. 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM

That is how we NG members get to even use the Post 9/11 GI Bill. You got to have the time otherwise you get the Reserve Select GI Bil which is much less, but still something. For NG it is also important to get all their DD214s to add up all their deployment time for a higher payout amount for the Post 9/11. 

Quoting violinjewel:

This is what I was thinking, of him not being eligible, because of not having any active duty time. My husband is eligible as a Guard member because he was deployed for a year, but it sounds like this person's son hasn't yet.


Quoting JerseyAirGurl:

http://www.nationalguard.com/life/education-benefits/gi-bill

Post-9/11 GI Bill, Chapter 33
For Soldiers with at least 90 days of Active Duty service on or after September 11, 2001, the Post-9/11 GI Bill can cover up to 100 percent of your tuition, depending on the length of time you’ve served. You may also be eligible for a housing allowance and a stipend for books and supplies, and your benefits may be transferable to your dependents.

He wouldn't get the Post 9/11 GI Bill unless he did enough qualifing AD service... http://www.gibill.va.gov/documents/pamphlets/ch33_pamphlet.pdf

Random: Liking your own post is weird. 



4ever-SJ
by Gold Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 4:01 PM
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Oh, hear ye, great gods of the National Guard - look most kindly on the offering of our first-born young.

Lol. Sorry. Migraine meds and copious amounts of highland rom lit are making me odd.


Quoting JerseyAirGurl:

Lol.... well she is referring to her child as an offering to the military. So I don't know how much backup planning or researching was actually done. 

Quoting 4ever-SJ:

And, maybe she should stfu that he doesn't have 80k in student loans even after receiving scholarships.



Complain, complain, complain. What was the kid's backup plan, any way? Was burger king passing out free rides to grad school?





Quoting JerseyAirGurl:

http://www.nationalguard.com/life/education-benefits/gi-bill

Post-9/11 GI Bill, Chapter 33
For Soldiers with at least 90 days of Active Duty service on or after September 11, 2001, the Post-9/11 GI Bill can cover up to 100 percent of your tuition, depending on the length of time you’ve served. You may also be eligible for a housing allowance and a stipend for books and supplies, and your benefits may be transferable to your dependents.

He wouldn't get the Post 9/11 GI Bill unless he did enough qualifing AD service... http://www.gibill.va.gov/documents/pamphlets/ch33_pamphlet.pdf

Random: Liking your own post is weird. 





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violinjewel
by Julia on Oct. 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM
That is what my husband has told me. His contract is up in Feb, and since he got a VA rating, he's considering going to school.


Quoting JerseyAirGurl:

That is how we NG members get to even use the Post 9/11 GI Bill. You got to have the time otherwise you get the Reserve Select GI Bil which is much less, but still something. For NG it is also important to get all their DD214s to add up all their deployment time for a higher payout amount for the Post 9/11. 

Quoting violinjewel:

This is what I was thinking, of him not being eligible, because of not having any active duty time. My husband is eligible as a Guard member because he was deployed for a year, but it sounds like this person's son hasn't yet.





Quoting JerseyAirGurl:

http://www.nationalguard.com/life/education-benefits/gi-bill

Post-9/11 GI Bill, Chapter 33
For Soldiers with at least 90 days of Active Duty service on or after September 11, 2001, the Post-9/11 GI Bill can cover up to 100 percent of your tuition, depending on the length of time you’ve served. You may also be eligible for a housing allowance and a stipend for books and supplies, and your benefits may be transferable to your dependents.

He wouldn't get the Post 9/11 GI Bill unless he did enough qualifing AD service... http://www.gibill.va.gov/documents/pamphlets/ch33_pamphlet.pdf

Random: Liking your own post is weird. 





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blondie.mom
by Charity on Oct. 9, 2012 at 4:18 PM
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Ahahahahahaha I was waiting for it!

Op I agree here, he's grown enough to join, so he should be grown enough to handle his own.


Quoting cocoroo:

Maybe he should have joined the military and not the CG. And, maybe you should let your son handle his own business.



Sorry to the CG ladies, but I couldn't resist.
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sailorwifenmom
by on Oct. 9, 2012 at 4:51 PM
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The thing is, there really isn't such a thing as a free ride. The military offers great education benefits - our daughter will be able to graduate from college with less than 10,000 in student loans at the end of her 4 yrs. BUT - my husband has served in the military - full time - for over 20 yrs to earn that.

Our son chose to enlist, and is earning his own GI Bill.

If you want the "full time" perks, you need to put in "full time" commitment - either by being Active Duty for so long, or serving in the Reserves or National Guard and being deployed / called to Active Duty during that time.

Otherwise, you are serving "part time", so you get "part time" benefits - you are still getting benefits, just not the same as others who have made a bigger commitment.

Basically, if you want steak, you have to pay for steak. You can't pay for a burger then gripe when they don't give you a sirloin. Your son ordered a burger, and that's what he's getting.

As far as what the recruiters did or didn't tell you, I don't mean this to be mean, but the thing is, in thus day and age, it's VERY easy to go online and check the veracity of whatever they tell you, and it would be in his contract. You wouldn't take a real estate agents word for it, you would want it in writing, and you would want a mechanic to inspect a car before buying a used car, and you should read your military contract / verify the info before you sign.


And to imply that to serve in the military has somehow bullied your son and you, and that you are some sort of victims because he isn't getting as much for his one weekend a month drills as someone who has served full time or put their lives on the line deploying as an activated reservists or guard member is rather insulting.
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gunsgirl
by Silver Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 5:52 PM

it is a recruiting ploy, and is used by a lot of reserve recruiters

your son will be elegible for the Post 9/11 GI bill after he has been in a while. NOW  he can use the MGIB and later when elegible use the Post 9/11 bill. the difference between the 2 is small, the MGIB pays the SM, and the SM then pays for tuition and books, the P911 pays tuition directly, gives 1,000 dollar a year book stipend and a housing allowance, however, the difference can be negligable based on actual tuition costs.

 

cocoroo
by Coco on Oct. 9, 2012 at 5:56 PM
I read it wrong.

Quoting Apollos82:

I'm not being a smart-ass...I think I missed something. I didn't see anything about CG. Just NG. Did a comment get deleted or something?



Quoting cocoroo:

Maybe he should have joined the military and not the CG. And, maybe you should let your son handle his own business.





Sorry to the CG ladies, but I couldn't resist.
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cocoroo
by Coco on Oct. 9, 2012 at 5:58 PM
You know I can't resist.

Quoting blondie.mom:

Ahahahahahaha I was waiting for it!



Op I agree here, he's grown enough to join, so he should be grown enough to handle his own.




Quoting cocoroo:

Maybe he should have joined the military and not the CG. And, maybe you should let your son handle his own business.





Sorry to the CG ladies, but I couldn't resist.
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gunsgirl
by Silver Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 6:01 PM

 

 

LOL how did you read Coast instead of national?? you were just waiting -- waiting for the opportunity to get that in, weren't you!!??? :P

Quoting cocoroo:

Maybe he should have joined the military and not the CG. And, maybe you should let your son handle his own business.

Sorry to the CG ladies, but I couldn't resist.

 

gunsgirl
by Silver Member on Oct. 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM

if she had to sign he is only 17.

not yet an adult, and  honestly if your child was 17 and joining and was lied to you would be pissed off too.

 

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