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Post with PCS allowances??

Posted by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:19 PM
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 I know I read a post in here and a poster had listed what allowances you would get when you PCS and I cannot find it, does anyone know where it is or does anyone happen to have that information?

Is the per diem for the days we are traveling to the new change of station? I am completely at a loss with all this stuff because I've never done it before. HELP!!!

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sahmw2010
by Beth on Feb. 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM

when we PCS'ed, we were reimburst for gas for both vehicles, food, and hotel stays until we got our house. KEEP ALL RECEIPTS

Armymom134
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM

 

Quoting sahmw2010:

when we PCS'ed, we were reimburst for gas for both vehicles, food, and hotel stays until we got our house. KEEP ALL RECEIPTS

 That is good to know, I about died when I found out how much it was going to cost for us to stay in a hotel. The one I booked is contracted with the army and they have suites that have kitchens so we are good there, but there isn't any guarantee how long we will have to stay in one because we are waiting for on post housing.

sahmw2010
by Beth on Feb. 15, 2013 at 2:53 PM

where are you PCS'ing to? they dont have a temp house? I know not all bases do, but we were lucky enough (and unfortunate) to get put in temp housing. the form of pay was the BAH so we didnt have to worry about that


Armymom134
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM

 

Quoting sahmw2010:

where are you PCS'ing to? they dont have a temp house? I know not all bases do, but we were lucky enough (and unfortunate) to get put in temp housing. the form of pay was the BAH so we didnt have to worry about that

 

 We are PCSing to Fort Benning, and they have lodging for people PCSing, I've never heard of them having temp housing before.

sahmw2010
by Beth on Feb. 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM

hey thats where we are! and there is no temp housing here. we actually stayed in the Quality Inn across the Chatahoochee river in Phenix City. its cheaper, very clean. we had a mini fridge/freezer, microwave, but no stove. we made due. but we live off post and only had to wait a week for our house to become availiable

Armymom134
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM

 

Quoting sahmw2010:

hey thats where we are! and there is no temp housing here. we actually stayed in the Quality Inn across the Chatahoochee river in Phenix City. its cheaper, very clean. we had a mini fridge/freezer, microwave, but no stove. we made due. but we live off post and only had to wait a week for our house to become availiable

 We are going to be living on post so we will have to wait for our housing to open up, DH is coming from Korea so they told us we will be a priority on the housing list so I am hoping it doesn't take long. A friend of DH's just went there from Korea and he said he only waited a few days before they got their housing.

But I talked to a very very nice woman at the Home-Towne Suites and she gave us the rate of 86.00 a day, and she booked us in their exec. suite, it has two bedrooms and a livingroom and kitchen. She was very nice and very accomodating. I just hope we don't have to stay very long.

gunsgirl
by Silver Member on Feb. 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM
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Explanation of entitlements:

Per diem: this is a per day per person allowance to help cover the cost of meals and hotels enroute, this is for enroute PCS travel and is a flat rate allowance ( the term flat rate just means that this does not need to be accounted for, you never ever need to show reciepts for what you use the money for. The per day amount is based on a 350 mile travel day ( you are not limited to traveling that amount only what distance they use for safe travel).

MALT- Mileage in leau of transportation: this a per mile per vehicle flat rate allowance for driving your own POV ( personal owned vehicle). This is to help cover the cost of gas and wear and tear.

DLA- Dislocation allowance: This to to help cover the costs of moving int moving a new place, even housing, this is also a flat rate allowance.

TLE- Temporary lodging Expense: this is to help cover the costs of lodging and food at the old and new duty stations in CONUS; This is a reimburseable allowance and you need to show receipts for the hotel room, but not for the food portion.

TLA= Temporary lodging Allowance: This to to help cover the costs of hotel and food OCONUS . This is also a reimbursable allowance and you will need receipts for the hotel portion only.

House Hunting Leave: Though not an allowance it is a general entitlement- HHL is also called permissive TDY, members are entitled to up to 10 days of non chargable leave before or after the PCS to secure housing, At command discretion members can be authorised HHL if member is on the gov housing wait list, but is generally not granted since the member has secured housing before arrival. HHL costs are out of pocket and are not reimbursable in any way. HHL can be taken at the same time as TLE/TLA at the new duty station and the TLE/TLA rules apply

PPM Personal Procured Move ( AKA DITY): there are 2 types of PPM's FULL ( when you move all your HHG's yourself and partial where you let the movers move part and you move part;)

For full PPM's you can get 60% of the estimated allowance based on weight, in advance.

For Partial PPM's you can only get an advance if you rent a truck or trailer

*** current average winter rates for conus to conus moves are 53-59 cents per pound

How PPM's work: PPM's are paid based on the actual weight you move, up to but not exceeding your weight allowance. This applies to both partial and full PPM's. You are not reimbursed dollar for dollar for expenses.

For partial PPM's if you exceed your weight allowance you will not get reimbursed , they count the gov move weight first and then the PPM weight, if you go over it will effect your reimbursement regardless of your out of pocket costs.

You will need to weigh the vehicle(s) both empty and full At Origin at a certified weight scale.

The rate is based on recent full Gov contracted moves using your weight estimate and distance. You are then reimbursed 95% of that rate.

You will need to save receipts for actual costs related to the PPM, these are gas receipts ( only for truck rental, not for POV's), packing material, Tolls, extra Insurance. These again are not reimbursed, it just lowers your tax liability, All PPM' profits are taxed at an average rate of 28%.

PPM Advance money: For full PPMs you are allowed to get 60% of the estimate in advance- : example- your weight allowance is 8,000 lbs, if you estimate you will move all 8,000 lbs you will get the advance based on that 8,000 lbs, if you then only move 6,000 lbs you risk being over paid.

2012 weight allowance chart: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.move.mil%2Fdocuments%2FDOD%2FWeight_Allowance_Table_JFTR_Vol1.pdf&h=9AQHrvmZq&s=1

POV Conus to Conus Shipping: there is a little known rule that can allow the member to get partially reimbursed for shipping a POV conus to conus. In accordance with CG regulations this must be stated on the orders and will appear as " POV Shipment Authorised" this does not mean the GOV will ship your Vehicle, only that they acknowledge that you can according to the regulation.

official regulation regarding Conus to conus shipping:

http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/site/faqpovconus.cfm

Current as of Jan 2013

RAtes of allowances:

Per diem: 123 per day for the member, 75% for spouse and dependants over 12, 50% for each dep under 12 ( including infants) ( unchanged for 2013)

MALT: 24 cents per authorised mile

DLA: this is based on rank:

http://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/Docs/perdiem/browse/Allowances/Dislocation_Allowance/DLA-2013-01-01.pdf?CFID=19819823&CFTOKEN=28546224

TLE/TLA are based on location; and there are several places to find them:

here is one:

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defensetravel.dod.mil%2Fsite%2Fperdiem.cfm&h=qAQFTsCfJ&s=1

*** a very Important foot note effective 10-1-12 members can only ask for 80% of PCS allowances in advance, these include MALT, Per Deim, DLA and TLE.

link to a PCS Calculator: http://www.pcs.signalwarrant.com/

sahmw2010
by Beth on Feb. 15, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I hope you dont have to wait long either. we were in Temp housing for 2 months. and I know that there is a unit thats coming back from a deployment. since i refuse to deal with on post housing now, i dont know how this posts handles that. we had arrived at our last post at the same time a unit came back and we got bumbed to the bottom and the people who were coming back whos families decided to go home, got first dibbs. my hubby came from Germany to that post. I hope they dont do that here. Im sorry but if their spouses choose to give up their house to go back home, then they should not get first picks. im guessing since they are putting you up in this suit, you have already put your name on the list?

Armymom134
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM
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Quoting sahmw2010:

I hope you dont have to wait long either. we were in Temp housing for 2 months. and I know that there is a unit thats coming back from a deployment. since i refuse to deal with on post housing now, i dont know how this posts handles that. we had arrived at our last post at the same time a unit came back and we got bumbed to the bottom and the people who were coming back whos families decided to go home, got first dibbs. my hubby came from Germany to that post. I hope they dont do that here. Im sorry but if their spouses choose to give up their house to go back home, then they should not get first picks. im guessing since they are putting you up in this suit, you have already put your name on the list?

 Oh yes, we were on the list in January. And DH will be finished clearing next week, so we are hoping that we get into a house as fast as DH's friend did.

Armymom134
by on Feb. 15, 2013 at 6:04 PM

 

Quoting gunsgirl:

Thank you for posting this.

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