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This makes me sick. As a parent of a disabled child who will remain disabled well into his adult life, the fact that these residents are fighting with the Commissioner to not have group homes built in their neighborhood is just disgusting. These group homes are for adults with physical and mental disabilities. Living in a group home will give these people a chance at living in a home instead of a hospital. These homes will be run by professional companies that have millions of government regulations they HAVE to abide by; these homes will also be staffed with full-time nurses as many of these patients have trachs, feeding tubes, & severe disabilities. These York County residents should be ashamed of their behavior. Instead of fighting this, they should spend a little of their time volunteering at group homes like this so they can get a new perspective on life.


Residents fight proposed group home

WAVY/Andy Fox
WAVY/Andy Fox

YORK COUNTY, Va. (WAVY) - Not in my backyard -- that's what people in York County are saying about a group home planned for their neighborhood. Wednesday night residents fought against the facility at a public hearing.

You can see the sign at the front of the Lackey neighborhood: “Help fight the 3 mental facilities planned for this neighborhood.”

The controversy surrounds Colonial Behavioral Health’s proposal to build three group homes for 12 adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities in the Lackey neighborhood, off Old Williamsburg Road.

The homes would replace CBH's current group home program that uses leased apartments in York County. Part of the reason for the change is because David Coe with CBH says it's important for the special needs adults to have their own bedrooms and back yards.

But local residents don't want to share their backyards. Dozens of people signed up to speak about the issue in front of elected officials at a public hearing Wednesday night at York Hall on Main Street.

Some residents voiced concern because they feel as if they haven't had a say in this process. Others feel as if the homes could bring dangerous people -- such as those suffering from schizophrenia, bi polar disorder, or substance abuse -- near the place they live. And some say the group homes will bring down property values.

Coe says law won't allow people with substance abuse problems to move into the group homes

The hearing began at 7 p.m. and lasted more than three hours. Border commissioners asked CBH to consider building two homes instead of three, but Coe would not compromise.

"It's all three or none," he said at the hearing.

Despite Coe's resistance, the Planning Commission voted three to one to recommend a two-group-home proposal instead of three group homes. The final decision has not yet been made -- the recommendation will go before the Board of Supervisors, who will put an end to the dispute.


by on Sep. 16, 2013 at 6:41 PM
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darbyakeep45
by Darby on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:49 PM

I definitely don't agree with letting the people outside without supervision...that's how things happen like what you are referring to.  When these group homes are built and people are moved into them, they have to be fully staffed to ensure things like that don't happen.  Unfortunately, no system is perfect and things will happen.  

If a group home for severly disabled people (like the one in the article) shouldn't be in a neighborhood, then where should it be?  In the middle of nowhere in the woods away from all other human beings?  

Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.

The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.


Quoting darbyakeep45:

I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.

I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  

Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.




anchorgurl
by Silver Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:49 PM
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 People with disabilities are people.  Fortunately, we have laws that protect the rights of these individuals to live in the kind of neighborhood they, and their families, want.

Quoting Caera:

I wouldn't even want to risk it.

Quoting darbyakeep45:

Having a group home in your neighborhood doesn't mean your house is worth less.  That is ridiculous and there's no data to back it up!  I would much rather have a group home next door to me than my current neighbors who don't take care of anything...their house and yard looks like shit.  They have 8 children who don't help with anything and they leave their crap everywhere!  It's horrible to look at and they make my house look bad.  So, I would personally rather have a group home next to me...at least I would know the yard would be mowed, cleaned, and the house would be kept nice.  Geez.

Quoting Caera:

After the way the market tanked, I don't blame them. I'm sure a lot of people are still clawing their way out from being upside down. I wouldn't want anything that could possibly lower my property value in the neighborhood either.



 

Caera
by on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:50 PM

My family, my finances first.


Quoting anchorgurl:

 People with disabilities are people.  Fortunately, we have laws that protect the rights of these individuals to live in the kind of neighborhood they, and their families, want.

Quoting Caera:

I wouldn't even want to risk it.

Quoting darbyakeep45:

Having a group home in your neighborhood doesn't mean your house is worth less.  That is ridiculous and there's no data to back it up!  I would much rather have a group home next door to me than my current neighbors who don't take care of anything...their house and yard looks like shit.  They have 8 children who don't help with anything and they leave their crap everywhere!  It's horrible to look at and they make my house look bad.  So, I would personally rather have a group home next to me...at least I would know the yard would be mowed, cleaned, and the house would be kept nice.  Geez.

Quoting Caera:

After the way the market tanked, I don't blame them. I'm sure a lot of people are still clawing their way out from being upside down. I wouldn't want anything that could possibly lower my property value in the neighborhood either.



 


anchorgurl
by Silver Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM
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 If we don't allow the special needs individuals to live in a "family community" then where do they deserve to live? 

Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.

The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.


Quoting darbyakeep45:

I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.

I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  

Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.



 

luckystars2012
by Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:57 PM
Not in a family community/subdivision.


Quoting anchorgurl:

 If we don't allow the special needs individuals to live in a "family community" then where do they deserve to live? 


Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.

The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.



Quoting darbyakeep45:


I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.


I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  


Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.




 


anchorgurl
by Silver Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM
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 I really hope that you can continue to live in a bubble and not think outside of your own well-being.  I also hope that you never get to experience the joy that a family member with special needs can bring to your own life, as well as the lives of others.  I also wonder if you would consider moving--to protect the other property owners--if you had a family member with a disability who was living with you.

Quoting Caera:

My family, my finances first.

 

Quoting anchorgurl:

 People with disabilities are people.  Fortunately, we have laws that protect the rights of these individuals to live in the kind of neighborhood they, and their families, want.

Quoting Caera:

I wouldn't even want to risk it.

Quoting darbyakeep45:

Having a group home in your neighborhood doesn't mean your house is worth less.  That is ridiculous and there's no data to back it up!  I would much rather have a group home next door to me than my current neighbors who don't take care of anything...their house and yard looks like shit.  They have 8 children who don't help with anything and they leave their crap everywhere!  It's horrible to look at and they make my house look bad.  So, I would personally rather have a group home next to me...at least I would know the yard would be mowed, cleaned, and the house would be kept nice.  Geez.

Quoting Caera:

After the way the market tanked, I don't blame them. I'm sure a lot of people are still clawing their way out from being upside down. I wouldn't want anything that could possibly lower my property value in the neighborhood either.



 


 

darbyakeep45
by Darby on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM
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Where do they deserve to live then?  Since they don't deserve to live in a regular subdivision, then where should they live?  In the woods all alone without human contact?  Reallly?  Why do you think you are any better than they are?  You deserve to live in a family community but they don't?  It's not their fault...it's the fault of the organization hired to care for them and run the group home....they are the ones at fault when things like that happen.  It's not the fault of the severely disabled person.  Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to believe that it is...

Quoting luckystars2012:

Not in a family community/subdivision.


Quoting anchorgurl:

 If we don't allow the special needs individuals to live in a "family community" then where do they deserve to live? 


Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.

The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.



Quoting darbyakeep45:


I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.


I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  


Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.




 



luckystars2012
by Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM
Not in a family community/ subdivision.

"Things will happen" doesn't really cut it when someone is showing their penis to children or breaking car windows in the neighborhood. If it were an in handicapped adult doing those things it would be an outrage and they would go to jail. Nobody would be saying "things will happen".

Imagine if a man was going up to your young daughter and showing her his penis, stroking it and smiling at her, and someone said "we'll, no system is perfect, things will happen" and nothing was really done because he was special needs?


Quoting darbyakeep45:

I definitely don't agree with letting the people outside without supervision...that's how things happen like what you are referring to.  When these group homes are built and people are moved into them, they have to be fully staffed to ensure things like that don't happen.  Unfortunately, no system is perfect and things will happen.  

If a group home for severly disabled people (like the one in the article) shouldn't be in a neighborhood, then where should it be?  In the middle of nowhere in the woods away from all other human beings?  

Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.



The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.





Quoting darbyakeep45:

I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.

I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  

Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.






Caera
by on Sep. 16, 2013 at 8:00 PM

tl; dr

Please see previous response.

Quoting anchorgurl:

 I really hope that you can continue to live in a bubble and not think outside of your own well-being.  I also hope that you never get to experience the joy that a family member with special needs can bring to your own life, as well as the lives of others.  I also wonder if you would consider moving--to protect the other property owners--if you had a family member with a disability who was living with you.

Quoting Caera:

My family, my finances first.


Quoting anchorgurl:

 People with disabilities are people.  Fortunately, we have laws that protect the rights of these individuals to live in the kind of neighborhood they, and their families, want.

Quoting Caera:

I wouldn't even want to risk it.

Quoting darbyakeep45:

Having a group home in your neighborhood doesn't mean your house is worth less.  That is ridiculous and there's no data to back it up!  I would much rather have a group home next door to me than my current neighbors who don't take care of anything...their house and yard looks like shit.  They have 8 children who don't help with anything and they leave their crap everywhere!  It's horrible to look at and they make my house look bad.  So, I would personally rather have a group home next to me...at least I would know the yard would be mowed, cleaned, and the house would be kept nice.  Geez.

Quoting Caera:

After the way the market tanked, I don't blame them. I'm sure a lot of people are still clawing their way out from being upside down. I wouldn't want anything that could possibly lower my property value in the neighborhood either.



 


 


luckystars2012
by Member on Sep. 16, 2013 at 8:02 PM
There are plenty of places for homes that are not in subdivisions and family communities. Again, maybe if you had seen what I have seen and how nothing was done about it you would understand.

I don't buy the "it's not their fault" when someone is breaking windows and sexually assaulting children.


Quoting darbyakeep45:

Where do they deserve to live then?  Since they don't deserve to live in a regular subdivision, then where should they live?  In the woods all alone without human contact?  Reallly?  Why do you think you are any better than they are?  You deserve to live in a family community but they don't?  It's not their fault...it's the fault of the organization hired to care for them and run the group home....they are the ones at fault when things like that happen.  It's not the fault of the severely disabled person.  Please tell me you aren't ignorant enough to believe that it is...

Quoting luckystars2012:

Not in a family community/subdivision.





Quoting anchorgurl:

 If we don't allow the special needs individuals to live in a "family community" then where do they deserve to live? 



Quoting luckystars2012:

The one in my aunts neighborhood was for "differently abled adults". There were I think ten people in the home plus the nurses and such. There were a couple that were wheelchair bound and unable to feed themselves and whatnot but most were "independent". Things like autism and such. Which is fine. I have an autistic cousin and I agree that they deserve a home too. But with the problems that I've seen, a special needs home doesn't belong in a family community.

The worst part was that everything was brushed under the rug because they were "special", I cluding the guy who showed he penis.




Quoting darbyakeep45:



I think there are different kinds of group homes....you may be referring to a different one than this article is speaking about.



I saw the news coverage about these homes.  They showed the patients and people who would be living in these homes.  They are severly disabled...in wheelchairs, with trachs, feeding tubes, and such.  These people can't even walk much less do what you are speaking about below.  These people are human beings too....they deserve to be well cared for.  



Quoting luckystars2012:

My aunt lived near one of those group homes and there was all kinds of trouble. One "differently abled" man who was going round showing his penis to children , a woman who stole mail, another who yelled at anyone who made eye contact as he walked down the street. I remember one young man with autism having some kind of meltdown in the street because he missed the ice cream truck, and broke a car window. i would fight this too.






 





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